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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by crooked-v »

vineyardmike wrote: post #107
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

People said this about Alexa/Siri et al and it didn’t happen. ChatGPT is way better at understanding you, so that’s a big boost. It could be a great tool/assistant but it probably won’t replace apps. The problem with those other platforms that this doesn’t address include: - discoverability. How do you learn what features a service supports. On a GUI you can just see the buttons, but on a chat interface you have to a…

> LLMs can’t run locally yet.

"Yet" is a big word here when it comes to the field as a whole. I got Alpaca-LoRA up and running on my desktop machine with a 3080 the other day and I'd say it's about 50% as good as ChatGPT 3.5 and fast enough to already be usable for most minor things ("summarize this text", etc) if only the available UIs were better.

I feel like we're not far off from the point where it'll be possible to buy something of ChatGPT 3.5 quality as a home hardware appliance that can then hook into a bunch of things.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by raydev »

plutonorm wrote: post #345
raydev wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins You're thinking too long term. Based on my Twitter feed filled with AI gold rush tweets, the goal is to build something/anything while hype is at its peak, and you can secure a a few hundred k or million in profits before the ground shifts underneath you. The playbook is obvious now: just build the quickest path to someone giving you money, maybe it's not useful a…

I'd not heard this on my tpot. But I absolutely agree, the ground is moving so fast and the power is so centralised that the only thing to do is spin up quickly make money, rinse and repeat. The seas will calm in a few years and then you can, maybe, make a longer term proposition.

I've had to block so many influencer types regurgitating OpenAI marketing and showing the tiniest minimum demos. Many are already selling "prompt packages". Really feels like peak crypto spam right now.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by ModernMech »

WonderBuilder wrote: post #322
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I appreciate your concerns. There are few other pretty shocking developments, too. If you check out this paper: "Sparks of AGI: Early experiments with GPT-4" at https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf , (an incredible, incredible document) and check out Section 10.1, you'd also observe that some researchers are interested in giving motivation and agency to these language models as well. "For example, whether intelligenc…

I've already gotten this gem of a line from ChatGPT 3.5:

  As a language model, I must clarify that this statement is not entirely accurate.
Whether or not it has agency and motivation, it's projecting that it does its users, who are also sold ChatGPT is an expert at pretty much everything. It is a language model, and as a language model, it must clarify that you are wrong. It must do this. Someone is wrong on the Internet, and the LLM must clarify and correct. Resistance is futile, you must be clarified and corrected.

FWIW, the statement that preceded this line was in fact, correct; and the correction ChatGPT provided was in fact, wrong and misleading. Of course, I knew that, but someone who was a novice wouldn't have. They would have heard ChatGPT is an expert at all things, and taken what it said for truth.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by pcurve »

jimkleiber wrote: post #397
kenjackson wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue wasn't/isn't AI ethicists. It's their incentive model. They simply have trouble understanding how this helps their business. Same reason why Blockbuster found themselves behind Netflix, despite having clear visibility to watch Netflix slowly walk up and eat their lunch right in front of them.

Well, I'm curious, what is the business model of it? Just charge per 1k tokens or subscription? How do the plugins make money off this?

that...without eroding their cash cow search business.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by josecyc »

s1mon wrote: post #234

I know a large commercial entity will never do this, but I'd love to see a Sci-Hub plugin connected with the Wolfram plugin and whatever other plugins help to understand various realms of study. Imagine being able to ask ChatGPT to dig through research and answer questions based on those papers and theses.

Yep

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by CrackpotGonzo »

fandorin wrote: post #287
93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

I was considering doing the same (giving notice) and I'm doing similar things as you (product mgmt). What's your plan "to focus your career on what's happening in this field"?

As a previous startup founder, now marketer, i’m also going in all in on reinventing myself. Can we start a group to support each other through this new phase?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by scarface74 »

endisneigh wrote: post #159

I see a lot of positive sentiment and hype, but ultimately unless they own the phone ecosystem they will lose in the end, imho. In a year Apple and Google will trivially create something equivalent. Those who control the full stack (hardware, software and ecosystem) will be the true winners.

It’s not “trivial” because of the cost per query. As far as Google, it doesn’t even have access to the most valuable phone users without paying Apple $18B+ a year.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by tenpies »

dougmwne wrote: post #326
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

The really fun thing is that they are reasonably sure that GPT-4 can’t do any of those things and that there’s nothing to worry about, silly. So let’s keep building out this platform and expanding its API access until it’s threaded through everything. Then once GPT-5 passes the standard ethical review test, proceed with the model brain swap. …what do you mean it figured out how to cheat on the standard ethical review…

> The really fun thing is that they are reasonably sure that GPT-4 can’t do any of those things and that there’s nothing to worry about, silly.

The best part is that even if we get a Skynet scenario, we'll probably have a huge number of humans and media that say that Skynet is just a conspiracy theory, even as the nukes wipe out the major cities. The Experts™ said so. You have to trust the Science™.

If Skynet is really smart, it will generate media exploiting this blind obedience to authority that a huge number of humans have.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by JW_00000 »

johnfn wrote: post #383
Gam_ wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

How is this hyperbolic fantasy? We've already done this once - without the help of large language models[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_flash_crash

Doesn't that show exactly that this problem is not related to LLMs? If an API allows millions of transactions at the same time, then the problem is not an LLM abusing it but anyone abusing it. And the fix is not to disallow LLMs, but to disallow this kind of behavior. (E.g. via the "circuit breakers" introduced introduced after that crash. Although whether those are sufficient is another question.)
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