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Re: Little Snitch Mini

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post #46

I would happily pay $20 or $30 for a version of this, but I will absolutely not pay a subscription fee for extra features. I have too many subscriptions... I want to support this developer but not this way. Uninstalling :(

If you buy directly and not from the app store it isn't subscription: https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/order.html

Re: Little Snitch Mini

#233
post #65

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software is ongoing though, the subscription model makes more sense if you want ongoing maintenance

profits mainly. some software managed to work just fine for years with one time buy..

Yeah some, and a lot of the time you'd be running it with gaping security holes. There's no way little snitch can keep on top of OS and network updates without a decent amount of ongoing maintenance.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

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post #228

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>"That's surprisingly modest. 3-4 years of subscription approximately being equal to a license sounds reasonable." To me it's not modest, because I don't plan to stop using the software after just 3-4 years.

I think the point is that after 3 to 4 years, a new version of the perpetual license version would be released and you would spend that amount to upgrade anyway. Of course you could choose no to upgrade, but that’s not always an option when support for new macOS versions are not available in the older version.

That business-centric and artificial way of "shedding skin" is sometimes the case. In my experience the move to a new software piece just to get a reason to drop previous licenses - e.g. "BigApp 2" - is thankfully still not the common rule.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

#235

"The full feature set, including connection blocking, extended traffic history time ranges, advanced display and filtering options and more is available as an in-app purchase." So this means as a company using MDM, I cannot purchase it for all my employees. MacOS devs who see IAP and subscriptions as the only purchase paths are leaving corporate purchases on the table. We choose software we can pay for. We are fine i…

Little Snitch Mini seems to be almost a demo for Little Snitch, which you can buy outright with a license up front. So buy that for your employees.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

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post #110
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I've always thought this should be a feature in an OS for advanced users. Combined with some OS level security optimizations it could be quite a powerful security feature for the paranoid and at-risk. I haven't tried mini but there's probably plenty of UX gains in between the standard Little Snitch fine control approach and the UBlock Origin style community curated defaults where control/customization is optional/on-…

Isn't this just a firewall?

Yes it's a friendlier desktop interface to a whitelist firewall. Rather than the usual blacklist approach used when engaging with the internet.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

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post #231
post #46

I would happily pay $20 or $30 for a version of this, but I will absolutely not pay a subscription fee for extra features. I have too many subscriptions... I want to support this developer but not this way. Uninstalling :(

If you buy directly and not from the app store it isn't subscription: https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/order.html

Isn't that a different product? This thread is about Little Snitch Mini

Re: Little Snitch Mini

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> The problem is: you can't do upgrade pricing in the app store. That is not a real problem. Many apps handle this by checking for a prior version and giving a discount (see Omni or Affinity approach), by having an upgrade window (e.g. 1Password approach before switching to subs outside app store), or by just charging full freight again (which nobody who values software actually minds, and enterprises that budget ful…

> you just sold 15,000 copies at retail by having a full price version when you otherwise couldn't sell any That's wishful thinking. No business buys 15,000 copies of an app just like that. My experience from the point of view of an independent software developer is that: 1. The company will email you to fill out some forms because they are considering a bulk purchase. You get all excited and jump right into filling…

Can't agree more. Been through the "please fill out those forms to register with our software reseller" thing too many times. In the end they order 2 licenses.

Then there's those who absolutely need to send a purchase order with a 90+ days payment goal for what amounts to be $150 or so. 75% of the time I agreed to that I have never seen any money.

The worst are K12 districts who expect you to fill out government forms (+ extra forms because I'm not from the US) then to order 1 copy they share between all their students. I just resort to sending them a free license they can legally use for all their students.

Then there's the notable exceptions. A social network site for professionals somehow manages to just order 20 licenses with a credit card. Same goes for a search engine company. Or a certain operating system vendor. No fucking PO required. No forms. They just get a corporate credit card and use the Fast Spring webshop I set up.

I'm really done with corporate/enterprise bullshit. They can go to my competition and shower them with stupid purchase orders for 15,000 units. I prefer to keep my sanity.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

#239

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The problem is: you can't do upgrade pricing in the app store. So your users would have to pay full price for a 2.0 upgrade. You could of course buy outside the app store - but you don't want that. And I don't want that, too (as a dev selling my software). Purchase orders are a PITA and I have been shafted by enterprise more than once. They get their licenses, I'm not getting my money because they just don't pay. Suc…

> The problem is: you can't do upgrade pricing in the app store. That is not a real problem. Many apps handle this by checking for a prior version and giving a discount (see Omni or Affinity approach), by having an upgrade window (e.g. 1Password approach before switching to subs outside app store), or by just charging full freight again (which nobody who values software actually minds, and enterprises that budget ful…

This is one of the things that bothers me about Apples app install process; I reinstall my OS often and when I start installing software via App Store, Apple displays the price and the notification that you will be charged never giving the user prior indication of whether the app is a new version that you will or will not pay for. With all the brilliant heads behind Apple you would think they would be able to get the UX right on this.

Re: Little Snitch Mini

#240
post #120

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In all fairness, you can't even buy a cup of black coffee from a 7-Eleven for that much.

yes, the price is cheap, but the number subscriptions and the total sum of them add up very quickly.

Not disagreeing with you here, but buying full licenses adds up too. And you will likely have to buy "upgrade" licenses when new versions are released.

That being said, I do like the license model that JetBrains uses for their products: if you pay for the subscription for more than 12mo, when you stop, you get to keep a perpetual license for the latest version that was released during the last 12 months of paid subscription (I hope I got it right).

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