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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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I use macOS in large part because its a *nix OS under the hood. WSL gives a lot of that power to Windows.

macOS is tempting but it's a pretty bad nix IMHO. The amount of times I had to change ad-hoc scripts to work around macOS limitations is absurd.

That’s likely because macOS is BSD-based. (Which may be inconvenient at times, but it doesn’t mean it’s “bad”.)

Not all the world is GNU.

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#742

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Why not offer parts of it as a website? The part where I chat with it, where I ask my questions and get my answers. (Maybe it could bridge into VS Code via a local server to exchange code.)

There is already a website. It's on chat.openai.com

"GitHub Copilot chat is not just a chat window. It understands what code a developer has typed, what error messages are shown, and it's deeply integrated into ..."

Could you please stop?

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#743

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Honestly, this just seems like another tool. An amazing one, yes, but a tool nevertheless. > Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. The same way coding without Internet feels antiquated, or coding without autocomplete, or coding without fast compilation times... If anything, progression of tools has shown se…

Screenshooting both comments for a guaranteed agedlikemilk

Thank you for your insightful comment.

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This is the big question isn't it. With self driving cars we have been on the final 20% for what seems like forever.

Big difference here is that it becomes more useful as it gets better. Self driving cars aren't useful until they reach a certain threshold.

I think there is a feedback loop with self-driving cars.

More self-driving cars on the road -> more driving data for that company -> better self driving cars

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What is `!-*f(6s6U8Q9b` here: const questionCriteria = { filter: '!-*f(6s6U8Q9b' // body_markdown and link } I thought maybe it is a hard-coded CSS element name in StackOverflow answers, judging by the context, but it's not that. Could you shed some light on this? Found in the How2 source file `how2/lib/how2.js`. Thanks.*

It’s an encoded bitmask indicating which fields to include from the API. The specific layout is an opaque implementation detail; the value is typically generated by the api playground Ui

I see, thank you.

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#746

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What is `!-*f(6s6U8Q9b` here: const questionCriteria = { filter: '!-*f(6s6U8Q9b' // body_markdown and link } I thought maybe it is a hard-coded CSS element name in StackOverflow answers, judging by the context, but it's not that. Could you shed some light on this? Found in the How2 source file `how2/lib/how2.js`. Thanks.*

It's a filter for the Stack Overflow API, you can test it out: * https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/questions/16476924?order=d... * https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/questions/16476924?order=d... I think this should contain a list of what's in the filter: https://api.stackexchange.com/2.3/filters/!-*f(6s6U8Q9b

Terrific, thank you.

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#747

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> I wish we could have open platforms that competitive players can extend and develop without owning outright and excluding other competitors. Who will pay for the development of those platforms? Who will ensure the compatibility with hardware?

The development costs for Windows (as a common platform, stripped of any add-on that could be provided by other competitive players) are a footnote in the costs of the global software market for Windows. There is indeed a complex problem to be solved of how to organize an open platform so that the development costs are paid, but it's not fundamentally a question of resources. Multiple companies and open source teams…

> The development costs for Windows (as a common platform, stripped of any add-on that could be provided by other competitive players) are a footnote in the costs of the global software market for Windows. There is indeed a complex problem to be solved of how to organize an open platform so that the development costs are paid, but it's not fundamentally a question of resources. Multiple companies and open source teams have achieved roughly similar feats with many orders of magnitude less resources than what MS rent-extracted from the Windows OS consumers.

I was talking about Windows Phone, a mobile operating system. To have an open platform, you have to have one big company paying and managing its development. Otherwise you end up with fragmentation, lack of ABI stability, backwards incompatibilities and "distros" like with Linux on the desktop, and that is not exactly a consumer success.

If you want an open platform, you have Android. But apart Huawei (which was forced by US government) and maybe some few small manufacturers from China, I don't see much competition in the space.

Contrast this with a parallel world in which we have Android, iOS, Windows Phone, WebOS, Bada, Tizen, Maemo, BlackBerry etc.

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#748

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They are bragging about 1m developers on copilot, let's say 20$/m to be generous - that's 20m$/month - they probably have larger single client revenues than that and I doubt copilot is high margin (I bet I spend more than 10$/month in compute by the queries I generate). Unless this goes to hundreds of dollars/month (which I would pay if it was a good experience) I don't see this making a dent.

The upsell is easy to envision though. Just like GitHub. If developers all use it for their own projects, you have a viral growth engine. And you can charge a lot more for the enterprise license. SAML, fine-tuning on your private repos, etc. - this could be a very expensive seat with all the options added.

They already have enterprise licenses at 20$/month I generously quoted above (personal is 10$/month), and I think they might have a tough sell when you consider privacy/IP concerns.

I think they are just trying to establish themselves in the market and how the market will play out will be seen over the coming years.

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#749

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Microsoft already owns the desktop and I don't think they consider Linux a threat. macOS would be a a better contender but I don't think they consider that a threat, also. In fact, Windows is starting to weigh less and less in overall Microsoft strategy. Windows mattered when all we had were desktops but now they have lots of cows they are milking. I won't be surprised if in the future Microsoft will find that it isn…

> they consider that a threat, also. In the hypothetical scenario from above it doesn't need to be a thread, just having the potential to become one can be enough. I mean why shouldn't you remove potential future threads when you easily can do so now but can't once they become a thread? > I've tried since 23 years ago to use Linux as a desktop but it failed repeatedly. I even have it installed on a separate disk on m…

I am glad Linux desktop didn't fail for others. Maybe they enjoy fixing broken stuff, configuring things repeatedly and tinkering with it. And maybe they don't miss software that doesn't run on Linux.

I am busy and I want to use software, not tinker with the OS. The OS should just work. And since software I use both professionally and personally doesn't run on Linux, it wouldn't bee good for me even if the experience was smooth.

On the server side I use Linux a lot. Most stuff I develop runs on Linux.

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I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…

It's pretty simple to write your own script in the meantime. I wrote this sometime ago: https://gist.github.com/Loeffeldude/41f3a71570f4bad1aff2749b...
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