Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under new EU rules
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#3From the article, it isn't clear whether a pay range of minimum wage to 1 million euros would be in compliance with this new rule. This is an actual tactic that many US employers have used to follow the letter but not the spirit of salary transparency laws.
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#4Ranges like $100000-$10000000?
Re: Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under new EU rules
#5From the article, it isn't clear whether a pay range of minimum wage to 1 million euros would be in compliance with this new rule. This is an actual tactic that many US employers have used to follow the letter but not the spirit of salary transparency laws.
You don't even need to be that hostile for this to be... difficult. I've seen salary bands for a specific role + level to be pretty wide - like 90k-150k. And then there's where you might be willing to accept mid level to principal dev - should you just publish a range where the upper is multiples of the lower? What's that really helping?
I'm all for more transparency, especially when it helps to equal out the power inbalance in employer to employee, but these attempts seem rough.
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#6It’s in the right direction, but it will be implemented in 3 years and for companies with more than 100 employees, without specifying limits or edge cases.
Re: Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under new EU rules
#7From the article, it isn't clear whether a pay range of minimum wage to 1 million euros would be in compliance with this new rule. This is an actual tactic that many US employers have used to follow the letter but not the spirit of salary transparency laws.
You don't even need to be that hostile for this to be... difficult. I've seen salary bands for a specific role + level to be pretty wide - like 90k-150k. And then there's where you might be willing to accept mid level to principal dev - should you just publish a range where the upper is multiples of the lower? What's that really helping? I'm all for more transparency, especially when it helps to equal out the power i…
From the article:
> They will not have to publish the precise salary due to fears that this could be commercially sensitive.
If you're going to preserve the commercially sensitive nature of pay at a given firm, the tolerances that you must accept will be several multiples higher than the cited 13 percent difference in pay between men and women.
Re: Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under new EU rules
#8From the article, it isn't clear whether a pay range of minimum wage to 1 million euros would be in compliance with this new rule. This is an actual tactic that many US employers have used to follow the letter but not the spirit of salary transparency laws.
I think the main problem is that these laws often fail to explicitly outlaw unintended consequences.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't even need to be that hostile for this to be... difficult. I've seen salary bands for a specific role + level to be pretty wide - like 90k-150k. And then there's where you might be willing to accept mid level to principal dev - should you just publish a range where the upper is multiples of the lower? What's that really helping? I'm all for more transparency, especially when it helps to equal out the power i…
From the article: > They will not have to publish the precise salary due to fears that this could be commercially sensitive. If you're going to preserve the commercially sensitive nature of pay at a given firm, the tolerances that you must accept will be several multiples higher than the cited 13 percent difference in pay between men and women.
.. why on earth would we preserve that? Should supermarkets not show prices?
Re: Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under new EU rules
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: > They will not have to publish the precise salary due to fears that this could be commercially sensitive. If you're going to preserve the commercially sensitive nature of pay at a given firm, the tolerances that you must accept will be several multiples higher than the cited 13 percent difference in pay between men and women.
.. why on earth would we preserve that? Should supermarkets not show prices?
Supermarkets should not have to disclose their COST prices, because these are non public negotiations, not a public offer to buy/sell. That so many people wilfully choose not to understand this distinction frustrates useful conversation.