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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by DeathArrow »

ren_engineer wrote: post #13

Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…

> Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that

Other companies can focus on other areas where AI can be used. There's room for everybody.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by tubs »

dijit wrote: post #73
tubs wrote: post #55

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Do you also disallow your employees from reading github, stack overflow, or other sources of code?

I disallow copying of copyrighted code into our product repositories unless the license is clear, I have even reached out to people to directly license copyrighted software, or for them to relicense their public AGPL/GPL license (for a fee). To answer your statement directly: 1) StackOverflow submissions are CC-BY-SA, so if a person copies' code from there, even if it's copyrighted you can consider it good faith and…

Right. So it's up to you to educate your developers to not copy code from sources that have licenses incompatible with your project. Much the same as educating the same developers that "YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING SUGGESTIONS" from copilot. I do not see any difference here.

It's an extremely personal attack to claim software licencing is a joke to me. You have zero context on the work I do professionally and as open source. I'd appreciate it if you could limit your arguments to not include personal insults.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by shagie »

gonehome wrote: post #647
shagie wrote: post #421

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The "what they hoped" is a question of "what who hoped?" When you look at SiriKit when compared to Google and Alexa, it is an entirely different approach that isn't designed for general tooling of a voice assistant but rather the intents show that it is designed for specific functionality of specific types of applications. Asking Siri for things outside of those intents was always delegated out to some other service…

Just watch the introduction of the Siri product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzItTz35QQ "Your intelligent assistant that helps you get things done just by asking" I suspect Scott Forstall and Jobs wanted it to be what LLMs show the potential for it to be. Not the crappy barely functioning timer setting app it currently is. Siri is dumb as rocks, it's so bad at basic queries it's not worth trying to use.

The tooling that it was designed for was things like https://youtu.be/agzItTz35QQ?t=709

Those were the intents that were set up.

Yes, it would be nice to have LLM style power - but that isn't how Siri was architected even from the very start. Word combinations are recognized as certain intents and parsed for functions to call into apps that register that they are able to handle that function call.

If there was no match for the intent, it was sent to Wolfram Alpha to do a knowledge base lookup. While Wolfram is really good, it certainly isn't a chat bot.

Siri wasn't supposed to be smart. Siri was intended for an interface to the existing apps of phone, music, messages, calendar, reminders, map routes, email, and weather.

When you look at that segment, 12:48 "just take your phone and ask Siri to set a timer for 30 minutes and you're done." Siri was very much intended as a timer setting app.

What functionality in there that you see in this segment that isn't designed as an interface to existing apps? What time cue do you see them promising something smarter than what was designed?

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by moffkalast »

gonehome wrote: post #261
hbn wrote: post #183

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I wouldn't go so far as to say they're exceptional. They're gaining good graces for developers by offering a bunch of free (for now) tools that people like. But most of their big breadwinner software is still abysmal to use. I just tried cold starting Word and getting into a blank document on my i9 MacBook Pro and it took about 15 seconds. Windows is increasingly a dystopian user tracking and ad serving platform that…

They’re strategically exceptional, but beyond that a lot of their products (or subsidiaries) are also dominant for good reason (vscode, GitHub). O365 and the product integration there (teams) is why they crushed slack despite slack’s headstart. Slack sold out to languish at salesforce while Microsoft will now just own that space. Cherry picking a Microsoft app for macOS is like looking at iTunes on windows, it’s not…

> lot of their products > GitHub

Yeah that one doesn't count, they've made exactly zero changes since acquisition and Actions still has downtime every few weeks.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by sqs »

lovasoa wrote: post #87

GitHub Copilot X is currently a representation of GitHub’s vision for the future rather than an available product offering of GitHub Copilot. As we continue to design, test, and build features that fall into the GitHub Copilot X vision, we are also taking the time to determine the best way to provide them to our customers.

From https://github.com/features/preview/copilot-x (FAQ: When will GitHub Copilot X be available and how much does it cost?)

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by moffkalast »

nicce wrote: post #629
adzm wrote: post #274

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Unfortunate about slack. It really seems to have stagnated. At least we have discord; I'm really glad they turned down Microsoft's 12 billion offer.

Discord is yet another walled garden to be fair. It might be good replacement for some little, private communities. But also large communities are moving into Discord instead of using some public, index-able and findable platforms. They used to be public in the past and people very able to read information about them without going process for creating account, acceptance or even finding whole community. Discord is te…

> information disappears

Wait really? I've never seen that happen on Discord, I can still see messages from over half a decade ago. Why would they delete data they mine?

Slack on the other hand deletes everything immediately if you're not on the paid plan of course.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by thisismahdyar »

zzzzzhzzzzz wrote: post #662

"At GitHub, our mission has always been to innovate ahead of the curve and give developers everything they need to be happier and more productive in a world powered by software." Maybe start with repo folders?

Make an organization?

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by sqs »

gzer0 wrote: post #169

There are 5 different sign-up waiting lists. Each one needs to be signed-up for separately. [1] Copilot X: https://github.com/github-copilot/chat_waitlist_signup/ [2] Copilot Voice: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-voice/ [3] Copilot Docs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/ [4] Copilot for PRs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests/ [5] Copilot CLI: https://githubnext.com/pro…

"GitHub Copilot X is currently a representation of GitHub’s vision for the future rather than an available product offering of GitHub Copilot. As we continue to design, test, and build features that fall into the GitHub Copilot X vision, we are also taking the time to determine the best way to provide them to our customers."

From the FAQ at https://github.com/features/preview/copilot-x (When will GitHub Copilot X be available and how much does it cost?).

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by nunobrito »

jackosdev wrote: post #277
gonehome wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re strategically exceptional, but beyond that a lot of their products (or subsidiaries) are also dominant for good reason (vscode, GitHub). O365 and the product integration there (teams) is why they crushed slack despite slack’s headstart. Slack sold out to languish at salesforce while Microsoft will now just own that space. Cherry picking a Microsoft app for macOS is like looking at iTunes on windows, it’s not…

vscode is an incredible piece of software, better than all the paid options in my opinion, the amount of features they pump out month to month is outstanding, just a bit slow due to electron. I never understood why they put so much effort into a free product that I run from Linux and Mac, but I'm happily paying the copilot subscription so it all makes sense now.

Would have to differ. Best IDE would have the Borland Pascal 7/C back in the 90s, then Delphi and eventually Netbeans/Eclipse to take that position as something worthwhile between Linux, Mac and Windows.

For me Delphi Pascal was the pinacle of compilers/IDE combos. A simply fantastic combination of GUI editor, assembler support, fast compiler and truly useful documentation with pratical examples at the click of a button without needing internet.

VScode with a proper copilot seems to be a game changer. Crossing fingers.

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