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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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snickerbockers wrote: post #554
ctoth wrote: post #508

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Counterpoint: how often do you as a developer create something totally novel that has never been built before?

I have to make new things pretty often. If you step outside of the high-level cloud/webdev stuff that most people seem to be obsessed with these days, there are a lot of non-trivial problems being solved in lower-level software such as device drivers, kernels, and compilers. EDIT: i misinterpreted what you were saying, initially i thought you were asking how i make new things, not how often i make new things. my orig…

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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by toastal »

adzm wrote: post #274
gonehome wrote: post #261

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They’re strategically exceptional, but beyond that a lot of their products (or subsidiaries) are also dominant for good reason (vscode, GitHub). O365 and the product integration there (teams) is why they crushed slack despite slack’s headstart. Slack sold out to languish at salesforce while Microsoft will now just own that space. Cherry picking a Microsoft app for macOS is like looking at iTunes on windows, it’s not…

Unfortunate about slack. It really seems to have stagnated. At least we have discord; I'm really glad they turned down Microsoft's 12 billion offer.

> at least we have Discord

Poe's Law?

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by nodogoto »

gjulianm wrote: post #352
hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

Honestly, this just seems like another tool. An amazing one, yes, but a tool nevertheless. > Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. The same way coding without Internet feels antiquated, or coding without autocomplete, or coding without fast compilation times... If anything, progression of tools has shown se…

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Post by blibble »

discreteevent wrote: post #181
programmarchy wrote: post #132

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It’s worth it even for hobby projects, imo. It reduces the time spent on mundane tasks and allows you to think at a higher level and just move faster. Maybe you achieve a level of zen from implementing utility level code, similar to how some people might still write assembly code, but otherwise it’s a valuable tool/skill to learn. Tangentially, I think there’s some fear associated with adopting AI tools, perhaps beca…

> my sense is that developers who don’t cultivate this new skill set will fall behind That might be true but it's an easy skillset to pick up compared to programming. The bigger danger is that new developers will lean on AI so much that they do not pick up the fundamentals of programming in which case they will definitely be left behind.

the result of this will be similar to hiring infosys

hundreds of thousands of lines of buggy incomprehensible boilerplate that doesn't work on anything but the easy cases

then you have to rip the entire thing apart and start again with people that know what they're doing

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by ashes-of-sol »

DeathArrow wrote: post #454
dathinab wrote: post #377

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or actively remove many reasons why people ended up trying out linux distributions in the past like e.g. universtity students needing to run programs which don't run on windows natively all the time, so many try out native Linux distros, some stay. Now all of them can just use WSL. Or like devs which need to develop for Linux servers etc. Basically they have accepted that windows server have failed and their server l…

> like I'm fine paying for an OS but not if there is even a single AD in there I can't remember last time I paid for Windows. Microsoft usually offers free upgrades. I haven't seen any ad on Windows. I frankly find hard to believe there are ads in Windows.

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Post by nwatson »

LASR wrote: post #573
spookthesunset wrote: post #447

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The best was when you knew somebody who worked at microsoft and could get the company discount!

If you knew someone working at MSFT, you would just ask them for some free keys.

My old MSDN keys for Windows from ten years ago will still unlock Windows 10/11 installs when I need a Windows VM.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by toastal »

nicky0 wrote: post #321
Vespasian wrote: post #255

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They have a limited trial or company memberships afaik. It costs 10$/month 100$/year for individual users.

~~That's weird because I don't pay anything.~~ EDIT: GitHub Copilot is free to use for verified students, teachers, and maintainers of popular open source projects

The Adobe model of letting students and schools train on it and then demand employers buy the subscription when the graduate.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by ipaddr »

DeathArrow wrote: post #454
dathinab wrote: post #377

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or actively remove many reasons why people ended up trying out linux distributions in the past like e.g. universtity students needing to run programs which don't run on windows natively all the time, so many try out native Linux distros, some stay. Now all of them can just use WSL. Or like devs which need to develop for Linux servers etc. Basically they have accepted that windows server have failed and their server l…

> like I'm fine paying for an OS but not if there is even a single AD in there I can't remember last time I paid for Windows. Microsoft usually offers free upgrades. I haven't seen any ad on Windows. I frankly find hard to believe there are ads in Windows.

Sounds like you are on an older version of windows or maybe you disabled them in a drunk rage.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by mwilsonthomas »

mike_hearn wrote: post #71
ren_engineer wrote: post #13

Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…

I hope that Copilot X will be brought to other IDEs as well, not just Visual Studio [Code].

Hey Mike: see this post for info about Copilot chat in Visual Studio 2022!

https://aka.ms/GHCopilotchatVS

Hope that helps

Cheers Mark Wilson-Thomas Program Manager, Copilot chat for Visual Studio

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