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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by yamtaddle »

chatmasta wrote: post #439
nixarn wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried co-pilot? I don't want to code without it. Saves so much time and produces good results, instead of searching for answers online, which isn't easy as you get into ad filled sites, find shitty Stack Overflow answers and webpages with outdated docs and examples. Two examples from this week. Formatting dates in javascript, I had a datetime string and I wanted to show it as YY-MM-DD HH:MM for our internal…

> Have you tried co-pilot? I wanted to try co-pilot, but noped out when I saw it required a subscription. I thought it was in some kind of beta and would still be free. Is there a way to try it without signing up for a subscription? My general worry is about becoming personally dependent on a paid tool just to do basic programming work.

I still want to know if MS lets, say, Windows or MS Office developers use it. If not, they must consider it too risky from a copyright standpoint, which means so do I.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by drusepth »

gzer0 wrote: post #169

There are 5 different sign-up waiting lists. Each one needs to be signed-up for separately. [1] Copilot X: https://github.com/github-copilot/chat_waitlist_signup/ [2] Copilot Voice: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-voice/ [3] Copilot Docs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/ [4] Copilot for PRs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests/ [5] Copilot CLI: https://githubnext.com/pro…

> [4] Copilot for PRs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests/

One minor nit for the Githubbers inevitably lurking in the comments:

The confirmation message for [4] says that they'll contact you at [first email address listed on your account], not [primary email address listed on your account]. I hope that's just a display bug since I don't have access to the email I first created my account with (but want to keep it added for commit attribution). It's not listed as the primary email though, which is where I'd expect this kind of communication to route through!

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by czbond »

intelVISA wrote: post #461
czbond wrote: post #307

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There is a display at Meow Wolf (absurdist immersive art experience) which paraphrased is "Thinking is for machines, labor is for humans". May turn to be true...

I'll reply to this once GPT4 provides a thought for me to borrow.

It should only cost you a few credits

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by ra1231963 »

hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

At one time, people programmed without google or search engines. They literally used thick ass books, and had to read through them and then type out what they saw in the book. Today, that sounds absurd.

Then came stack overflow and google. We search, pray we get a good result or someone else took the time to ask the question, then read (and sometimes copy+paste).

Then AI assistants. I'm not exactly sure what's next, but I do think coding without some type of AI assistant will be extremely antiquated very soon. I already use it all the time. I never want to go back.

The next generation will look at finding answers via SO, google, and random forums just as we look at people use used books -- as an absurdly inefficient way to do a job

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by randomdata »

hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

> Governments will have to ponder about what to do with a world of people who became inferior to machines at almost everything. Universal Basic Income?

Why would the machines want to pay us once we can no longer provide them value? Maybe they'll keep a few of us as pets and for sport, but the rest will be sent to the human equivalent of Bovine University.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by paxys »

nirav72 wrote: post #475
paxys wrote: post #407

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We forgot very quickly that there was an entire generation of developers who paid $1000-2000 or more for an MSDN subscription just as the base cost for doing business. This is what Microsoft does.

Did individual developers actually pay that? I’ve done quite a bit of development in the MS ecosystem and can’t recall anyone personally paying for MSDN. It was always through their employer that they got access.

We will pretty soon get to a point where companies start to volume license Copilot for their entire engineering team, so really the same thing.

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Post by drusepth »

ericlewis wrote: post #523
axlee wrote: post #451

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Or $299 a year for the Apple Developer Program just for the great honor to be able to develop for that platform...

$299 a year? It is $99.

The Developer Program plan is $99/year and enables distribution via the App Store.

The Developer Enterprise Program plan is $299/year and enables corporate/internal distribution to employees.

Most people only need the first, but the second is also an option. And if you need both, it's technically $398/year for the great honor.

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Post by Cipater »

hbn wrote: post #183
gonehome wrote: post #58

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Microsoft is a so well positioned on this I think Silicon Valley has forgotten what it looks like when they don’t have a horrible CEO. When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. There’s a massive paradigm shift we’re just at the beginning of and Microsoft has been putting pieces in place for the last couple of years. Nadella has really turn…

I wouldn't go so far as to say they're exceptional. They're gaining good graces for developers by offering a bunch of free (for now) tools that people like. But most of their big breadwinner software is still abysmal to use. I just tried cold starting Word and getting into a blank document on my i9 MacBook Pro and it took about 15 seconds. Windows is increasingly a dystopian user tracking and ad serving platform that…

It takes three seconds to cold start Word for me on an old (2015), underpowered (core i5, 8GB RAM, low end SSD) HP laptop.

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Post by computerex »

gonehome wrote: post #58
ren_engineer wrote: post #13

Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…

Microsoft is a so well positioned on this I think Silicon Valley has forgotten what it looks like when they don’t have a horrible CEO. When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. There’s a massive paradigm shift we’re just at the beginning of and Microsoft has been putting pieces in place for the last couple of years. Nadella has really turn…

No one is talking about how they quietly acquired Nuance. If it weren't for Google, Microsoft would have a complete monopoly on AI.

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Post by singularity2001 »

nemo44x wrote: post #339

Wow, Microsoft was so ahead of the curve when they bought Github. They saw this coming and knew they had to acquire them to make it into this kind of thing. Just absolutely impressive execution here. Especially since Github would not have been able to do this on its own. Just an absolute perfect acquisition here. They don't often go right, but when they do so much new value is created for everyone.

I am praying for some alternative platform to take the throne off Github. This is way too much power in the wrong hands. The competing product needs to add a fundamental new idea or feature. Gitlab as it is doesn't cut it.
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