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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by headcanon »

brookst wrote: post #90
toomuchtodo wrote: post #46

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I don’t think people understand the hockey stick we’re on. Don’t focus too hard on the failings, look at the scaffolding being rapidly deployed that makes the iterative improvement process exceptionally tight.

It’s the same with every paradigm shift. “GUIs are pretty but slow. Ok, they’re faster but just glued on to CLI programs. Ok, they’re native but less information dense. Ok, that’s a good thing, but…” “The internet is nice but you still have to go to the store/bank. Ok, you can shop/bank online but you still have to call airlines. Ok you can buy airline tickets but you still have to go to the library to research. Ok,…

I would assert that the "here are the current flaws" side is still necessary in the overall conversation, since they provide the necessary feedback that allows technology to improve. Similar to political debates influencing the Overton window of a population, I see the "future promise" vs "current flaws" as a human algorithm realizing itself. The debate never ends, but the "mean" value keeps moving as technology progresses. As a "future promise" person myself I used to be annoyed by the "current flaws" side as well until I started seeing things through this lens.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by MattSayar »

csantini wrote: post #470
pastor_bob wrote: post #393

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$50+ in monthly subscription fees? BRB buying some MSFT

If you want it cheaper: https://how2terminal.com This is when I build a product and then Microsoft releases it three weeks later -_-

What a great landing page. Clear, to the point, with a self-explanatory demo. I know exactly what to do and how to use it in under 30 seconds

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by chrisan »

drBonkers wrote: post #503
chrisan wrote: post #490

Is there a way to talk to copilot after something has been made? For example: I just asked it to search for something on a public api in a comment and let it auto complete the function. The resulting code was pretty decent except it included a hard coded access_token in the url. This was a blank project, I don't even have an access token for this api - guessing someone posted theirs in a public repo at some point. Is…

I think this is what Copilot Chat will do.

ah yes, you are correct. Visual Studio (code) only at the moment

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Post by DeathArrow »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #229
ilovetux wrote: post #131

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> have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be Microsoft has historically been anti-opensource, but not anti-developer. Their first product was a BASIC interpreter and in my experience throughout the 90s and early 2000s their developer ecosystem (aka Visual Studio) has really been first-class. I am not a fan of Microsoft because they have been openly hostile to open source,…

Microsoft was also a long time anti-commandline and against scripting, they tried to made everything clickable, with wizards and s**, and remove text and keyboard-input as much as possible for admins and devs. Thinking about, Copilot is in it's own way, a continuation of this, just more dev-friendly.

Being a developer isn't the same as being a command line user.

Most Windows users prefer GUI over the command line.

That being said, Microsoft released PowerShell, Windows Terminal and lots of command line tools. A large part of the Windows administration can be done trough command line if one so desires.

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Post by DeathArrow »

throwaway290 wrote: post #331
bastardoperator wrote: post #314

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Is there anyone doing more for open source today? I hear you, but it's clear they've changed that tune dramatically.

By monetising OSS and sidestepping copyleft licenses to suggest you the same code repackaged as part of proprietary autocomplete for which you pay MS and not original authors?

What do you mean by that?

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Post by muny »

chrisan wrote: post #490

Is there a way to talk to copilot after something has been made? For example: I just asked it to search for something on a public api in a comment and let it auto complete the function. The resulting code was pretty decent except it included a hard coded access_token in the url. This was a blank project, I don't even have an access token for this api - guessing someone posted theirs in a public repo at some point. Is…

What I normally do in cases like this is set up the necessary scaffolding for the solution. In your case, that could be introducing a variable named something like `access_token` for it to substitute into the URL.

Then, when you trigger a suggestion it's very likely that CoPilot will use your `access_token` variable.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by bg24 »

pastor_bob wrote: post #393
gzer0 wrote: post #169

There are 5 different sign-up waiting lists. Each one needs to be signed-up for separately. [1] Copilot X: https://github.com/github-copilot/chat_waitlist_signup/ [2] Copilot Voice: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-voice/ [3] Copilot Docs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/ [4] Copilot for PRs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests/ [5] Copilot CLI: https://githubnext.com/pro…

$50+ in monthly subscription fees? BRB buying some MSFT

Where is the pricing? I looked around and not obvious if I missed it. Some of these used to be in copilot labs. I used and then disabled it. Was part of monthly copilot subscription.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by cess11 »

csantini wrote: post #470
pastor_bob wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$50+ in monthly subscription fees? BRB buying some MSFT

If you want it cheaper: https://how2terminal.com This is when I build a product and then Microsoft releases it three weeks later -_-

In case you'd like to know, there are a couple of typos on the landing page: focussed and Custome service.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by chaxor »

scandox wrote: post #222
brookst wrote: post #90

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It’s the same with every paradigm shift. “GUIs are pretty but slow. Ok, they’re faster but just glued on to CLI programs. Ok, they’re native but less information dense. Ok, that’s a good thing, but…” “The internet is nice but you still have to go to the store/bank. Ok, you can shop/bank online but you still have to call airlines. Ok you can buy airline tickets but you still have to go to the library to research. Ok,…

Your overall point is reasonable, but to take your point about GUIs...we actually lost an awful lot moving from text based interfaces going to GUI. We got universal adoption and more or less zero training required...but we got very slow and inflexible interfaces.

Command line didn't vanish ... You can still use it. Approximately 90% of my work is done via TUI, so it's certainly not gone.

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Post by crucialfelix »

efields wrote: post #96
mike_hearn wrote: post #71

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I hope that Copilot X will be brought to other IDEs as well, not just Visual Studio [Code].

The sublime plugin for Copilot works well enough already. I'm sure Copilot X will be something you can fold into any editor. I don't understand how so many folks seem to tolerate the UX lag in VSCode

Try disabling all extensions.

I know there are startup metrics, and I would expect there are keystroke metrics to understand what's running

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