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#472Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…
We already had several tectonic shifts in software engineering in the last ~50 years, and there was never a consequential redice if engineering workforce, only otherwise.
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#473Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…
It feels absurd. A Chat-GPT4 model will generate unit tests? Hallelujah! I hate writing tests! Yay! Except how do you know it's generating the right tests? Can it explain its reasoning? Unit tests are a weak form of automated specification. Why are we inferring our specifications from examples to begin with? Who is going to walk through the reasoning and verify these are the right tests and make sense and specify the…
> Can it explain its reasoning?
Yes, actually, it can.
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#474Earlier quoted context omitted.
It feels absurd. A Chat-GPT4 model will generate unit tests? Hallelujah! I hate writing tests! Yay! Except how do you know it's generating the right tests? Can it explain its reasoning? Unit tests are a weak form of automated specification. Why are we inferring our specifications from examples to begin with? Who is going to walk through the reasoning and verify these are the right tests and make sense and specify the…
Copilot user here. Copilot (the existing gpt-3 one) definitely helps at writing unit tests. Yeah, sometimes it doesn't nail it, but one thing it can do reliably is to repeat a pattern, and I don't know about you, but my unit tests tend to repeat the same pattern (with some tweaks to test this-or-that-case). Quite often it infers the correct change from the name I gave the test method, but even if it doesn't it'll wri…
I have a "Generate... -> Test for function" in my JetBrais IDE out of the box for several years, and it takes care of boilerplate pretty well.
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#475Earlier quoted context omitted.
$50+ in monthly subscription fees? BRB buying some MSFT
We forgot very quickly that there was an entire generation of developers who paid $1000-2000 or more for an MSDN subscription just as the base cost for doing business. This is what Microsoft does.
Did individual developers actually pay that? I’ve done quite a bit of development in the MS ecosystem and can’t recall anyone personally paying for MSDN. It was always through their employer that they got access.
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#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
$50+ in monthly subscription fees? BRB buying some MSFT
> BRB buying some MSFT No. Tell me you buy the hype and on high impact macro-economic news like FOMC and lose more money due to volatility without telling me. Almost everyone here knew GPT-4 will release soon, months ago in advance and you now decide to 'buy' MSFT as soon as it goes up to $277? The market really does get retail FOMO'ing in stocks with the hype and it just never ceases to surprise me that it happens h…
I think you have a valid point or two, but I think you’re not grasping how much enterprises will be throwing money at MSFT.
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#477A curious question. Would it be possible to build LLMs off of bytecode / compiled code, and then translate it back to different programming language codes? Is that a viable way to get more fine-tuned outputs from these models?
I don't think so, bytecode / machine code must be really precise, while LLMs are producing nondeterministic outputs (at least GPT). Add "hallucinating" of the output to the pile and right now I think it's infeasible.
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#478Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…
Microsoft is a so well positioned on this I think Silicon Valley has forgotten what it looks like when they don’t have a horrible CEO. When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. There’s a massive paradigm shift we’re just at the beginning of and Microsoft has been putting pieces in place for the last couple of years. Nadella has really turn…
Not saying Ballmer was great or bad but it could be argued that the US Government handicapped Microsoft more than Ballmer was a bad CEO. To my understanding Gates was also very active with the company during those years as well.
Ballmer inherited a company at the top with everyone wanting to crush it & make it dissolve.
Nadella inherited an underdog.
I think this should be considered when thinking about the legacy of the CEO.
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#479Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…
Maybe you need to get yourself into an application domain with more bespoke protocols and tooling, and domain-specific expertise, that aren’t public on the internet and that AI therefore doesn’t have much of an idea of. At least at this point, AI is only of little help in my daily work, unfortunately, because I’d have to first explain it orders of magnitude more context than fits into its token buffer.
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