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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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There are 5 different sign-up waiting lists. Each one needs to be signed-up for separately. [1] Copilot X: https://github.com/github-copilot/chat_waitlist_signup/ [2] Copilot Voice: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-voice/ [3] Copilot Docs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/ [4] Copilot for PRs: https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests/ [5] Copilot CLI: https://githubnext.com/pro…

Thank you. Better comment than the release docs.

This is going to be fantastic!

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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post #126

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There are multiple startups for this. You can test the concept on my site https://aidev.codes although I don't have github integration yet.

Looks neat! But I would need it for pushing numbers around with Python, not building websites.

You can do that, it will output whatever. I just can't like execute or show any output. When I have the virtual servers I will be able to run the code.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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The domain name on that authorization prompt was more than enough to get me to decline. I wouldn't have hesitated at all if it were at next.github.com.

Totally get it. I’ve passed feedback on to the team so (hopefully) the CLI app will be be clearly from GitHub soon (we need to transfer it to the regular GitHub org and then there hopefully won’t be any confusion). GitHub Next exists in a different org from GitHub proper for lots of reasons, but we should definitely make it more clear that those experiments are still from GitHub.

FYI, after digging down a few links from there and winding up at the GitHub Next org page[1], seeing the verified email next@github.com and the official site link to https://githubnext.com was enough validation for me.

Can't wait for Voice Copilot :)

1: https://github.com/githubnext

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

> We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today.

When my team gets crunched, it's not usually because we can't write the code fast enough. It's because of product requirements (changing, needing to be fleshed out, being unrealistic, being understood properly by QA, being adapted to the realities of reasonable code, not existing, etc.).

On top of that, needing fewer workers to do X work !== getting X work done cheaper. Quite often, it means getting 2X, 3X, 10X work done. As an overall trend, modern society has increased worker productivity dramatically over the last few decades, yet many work as many or more hours than they used to. We could get the same results with fewer workers, or we could make them work more. We know what 99% of CEOs will choose.

Of course, maybe it will reduce developer jobs. I'm not ruling that out entirely. But when (not if) we create an alien intelligence that can wipe out our industry, we may have bigger concerns than steady employment.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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The sublime plugin for Copilot works well enough already. I'm sure Copilot X will be something you can fold into any editor. I don't understand how so many folks seem to tolerate the UX lag in VSCode

> I don't understand how so many folks seem to tolerate the UX lag in VSCode A lot of us don't experience any issues. To me, VSCode is just as performant as Sublime is.

I guess what you experience is how I experience 1 px misalignment and similar things that some people always complain about in KDE:

I don't notice it at all.

Modern software that doesn't react immediately even when running on even more modern hardware however, that grinds my gears.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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I'm not impressed with this announcement. What I miss with Copilot is not reflected there: 1. Separate hotkeys to accept either single token from the suggestion or single line. Often Copilot tries to autocomplete 50 lines method which I'm not happy with. 2. Ability to edit existing text. It only inserts new text. I'd like something like multiple cursors or macroses working automagically by recognising similar text pa…

To your first point, `cmd + ` will accept the suggestion word by word.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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post #231

So if MSFT's message here is "software engineers don't have to know how to code," what's the value of knowing how to code? Seems at odds with their core customers' self interests.

it's totally not the message, weird that you would say this; this is a tool just to make the developers' lives easier

That doesn't seem (to me) to be how it's being advertised to corporate clients.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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It’s officially from GitHub. There is some weird language (that I’ll absolutely pass feedback on to the team), I think because GitHub Next is a different organization from GitHub proper, but I can assure you, this is an official GitHub app. But I totally agree that this isn’t a great/clear message about where this is from.

I raised this concern before about how unclear this is and the concern was pretty much dismissed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33539150 "Techies" often lament about how silly users are about falling for phishing tricks, but then they also routinely make it so difficult to determine what's legit from what's fake.

>routinely make it so difficult to determine what's legit from what's fake.

Like the amount of times on my phone where I get prompted for a username and password different from the app im in (to make some kind of connection) but then suppress the url from visibility. An astoundingly poor design choice that has proliferated into every single variant of that interface design flow.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Here we go again with the editor lock in as precisely predicted. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27685104

I like how you probably spent more time looking up your multiple-year-old comment that could have instead been used to make sure that you’re not sounding like a fool that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. They have already committed to releasing it to all editors Copilot supports. So, you know, the exact opposite of editor lock in.

> I like how you probably spent more time looking up your multiple-year-old comment that could have instead been used to make sure that you’re not sounding like a fool that doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

It took seconds and it is still true and evergreen to this day. Thanks for your so called 'concern'.

> They have already committed to releasing it to all editors Copilot supports. So, you know, the exact opposite of editor lock in.

They are more 'Committed' to supporting VS Code than giving total feature parity to other editors. Do you really believe everything that Microsoft / OpenAI feeds you?

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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I don’t think people understand the hockey stick we’re on. Don’t focus too hard on the failings, look at the scaffolding being rapidly deployed that makes the iterative improvement process exceptionally tight.

I'm mostly curious how far the hockey stick will go up. Eventually most things level off.

Considering this hockey stick is in the field that is in the business of making hockey sticks it could go pretty far. A hockey stick maximizer if you will.
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