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Apple has always had its own hardware based silo to some extent (excellent products and design, fully integrated). Still, I suspect the AI stuff will be hard for them. They were first to market with Siri and it’s still trash 13yrs(?!) later. It’s always been what they’re weakest at, I’m not sure LLMs will be different for them. The headset could still give them a nice hardware platform advantage though if that UX bec…
> Still, I suspect the AI stuff will be hard for them. They bought Siri! What stops them from buying someone for "ai"
Siri still sucks?
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So it's on par with a junior software engineer?
Sure. One that never gets tired, never gets frustrated, always does his best, and has a pause button.
This applies to managers and many founders too. I imagine it's gonna affect the startup scene more than people expect and the number of current model of startups where you build a custom software solution for a problem may also fall. It applies to all white collar workers. This is the goal of a corporation like Microsoft to develop such a system (to consolidate those added values), and it will happen one day as it happened with physical labor. Although we are not quite there yet. It might be far or not. Who knows?
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#244People should keep in mind that these human in the loop AI systems are built to learn from the human until they’re good enough to replace them.
Do you have evidence to back these claims? Specifically that AI will be replacing software engineers any time soon and that Copilot exists explicitly to gather data towards that purpose.
Well it's hard to argue against the idea that the final aim of Copilot is to automate as much of software engineering as possible.
I don't think that their aim is explicitly to replace humans, but to be as helpful as possible to developers, but doing that does exactly the other thing
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#245Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…
> have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be Microsoft has historically been anti-opensource, but not anti-developer. Their first product was a BASIC interpreter and in my experience throughout the 90s and early 2000s their developer ecosystem (aka Visual Studio) has really been first-class. I am not a fan of Microsoft because they have been openly hostile to open source,…
Many people paid to host their code at Github to only then have it sold back to them and others in the form of Copilot.
IMO that's very anti-developer.
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#246“developers can verbally give natural language prompts.” One more reason to demand remote work. I really do not want to be sitting next to the guy who spends 8 hours talking to his computer.
I think you may be missing the intended audience for this — it’s aimed at folks who are visually or otherwise impaired and cannot type using a traditional keyboard/input device.
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It’s officially from GitHub. There is some weird language (that I’ll absolutely pass feedback on to the team), I think because GitHub Next is a different organization from GitHub proper, but I can assure you, this is an official GitHub app. But I totally agree that this isn’t a great/clear message about where this is from.
The domain name on that authorization prompt was more than enough to get me to decline. I wouldn't have hesitated at all if it were at next.github.com.
The amount of companies, including serious banks, that doesn't understand this is mind blowing.
Just the other day I had to verify with a Norwegian bank that the KYC form (which IMNSHO was utter nonsense as usual) that they linked to was actually them and not someone who had gained access to sneak in a link. Because the domain was something completely different.
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#248This will be a hard moat for GitLab to cross. There is so much value to having open source models though that I wonder if we could come up with a project on the scale of Linux that is for open source machine learning models. So many companies could benefit from it.
BigCode is such a project: https://www.bigcode-project.org/docs/about/mission/
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If it were not for the impending headset, Apple would look a wee bit caught out as well. I suspect once Apple turns toward gen ai, all of its other advantages (infra, hw, instal base, services, etc) will propel it to forefront.
Apple has always had its own hardware based silo to some extent (excellent products and design, fully integrated). Still, I suspect the AI stuff will be hard for them. They were first to market with Siri and it’s still trash 13yrs(?!) later. It’s always been what they’re weakest at, I’m not sure LLMs will be different for them. The headset could still give them a nice hardware platform advantage though if that UX bec…
AI in support of user interface has been downright awful. IIRC, Siri has the lowest customer satisfaction out of any other product at Apple.
However, the company has deployed machine learning in support of its neural engine which has a huge amount of penetration. This has already shown the iOS fleet ready to do gen AI at the edge.
The company has focused largely on STT and image processing but has worked to support use of the chip for general ML, via transformer. [1]
I’d say Apple’s only failed in the way everyone did—-failure to foresee and the potential impact of generative AI.
Apple seemed unable find a use case that would help its ecosystem. I am surprised it never releases copilot like behavior to Xcode. When will this occur?
[1] https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/neural-engine-tra...
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Microsoft is a so well positioned on this I think Silicon Valley has forgotten what it looks like when they don’t have a horrible CEO. When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. There’s a massive paradigm shift we’re just at the beginning of and Microsoft has been putting pieces in place for the last couple of years. Nadella has really turn…
> When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. I agree with this. And what I think is so fascinating is how much they left on the table during this very same time. Steven Sinofsky's Hardcore Software substack is an amazing read[1]. And it really shows how much they got wrong as well as how much they got right. MS is firing on all cylinders. B…
> GitHub acquisition are looking like genius moves right now
Surprising that AWS didn't compete for its acquisition. They stand to lose a bunch too. That said, except for OS and Browsers, it is all coming together for Microsoft, including their XBox division.