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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by elil17 »

retrocryptid wrote: post #111
elil17 wrote: post #45

Yesterday, Copilot could not write a program with SymPy, which is a library for doing symbolic math in Python. (e.g., it would consistently confuse symbols in equations with Python variables). Today it uses SymPy as well as it uses NumPy (occasional mistakes, but overall it has the right idea). Absolutely astounding.

So it's on par with a junior software engineer?

No, I don't think it's comparable to a junior engineer. It works best for pretty short snippets of code. It also can't decide when to run the program and how to interpret/make changes based on the results.

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Post by jghn »

vintermann wrote: post #125
jghn wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Concern over this is the #1 reason I have not yet tried to use Copilot. For my hobby projects I don't care enough to pay for it. And if it's phoning home proprietary code, I can't allow that to happen.

Eh, as long as my employers don't care (they don't), I don't care. I have no illusions that my code/our code will give Microsoft any valuable training data it couldn't trivially get elsewhere.

Mine does, and therein lies my issue.

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Post by salt4034 »

w-m wrote: post #105

What I'd love to see in the future is a proper refactoring UX. This new chat interface is probably a good start, as it seems able to replace code blocks in your original source file. But most code changes in the real world require changes in multiple locations. And I don't usually have questions for the AI, I have small tasks for it to do. I hope we can get to a point where I can give quick commands to a Copilot-like…

I agree. Before finalizing the changes, the AI could show you the diff and ask "is this what you had in mind or would you like me to change anything else?"

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by passion__desire »

gonehome wrote: post #58
ren_engineer wrote: post #13

Microsoft really seems to have wrapped up the developer ecosystem with VS Code and the Github acquisition combined with OpenAI. They are going to have an absurd amount of data to optimize their models thanks to that, not sure how other AI focused companies can overcome that have to wonder at what point developers remember how anti-developer Microsoft used to be and potentially move away from their ecosystem. Credit t…

Microsoft is a so well positioned on this I think Silicon Valley has forgotten what it looks like when they don’t have a horrible CEO. When Microsoft executes well, they’re a scary force. They were exceptional under Gates and it looks like they are again. There’s a massive paradigm shift we’re just at the beginning of and Microsoft has been putting pieces in place for the last couple of years. Nadella has really turn…

As a young developer, I always wondered why Google didn't buy Java from Sun. Wouldn't it be a strategic buy?

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Post by dougmwne »

shmatt wrote: post #42
digdugdirk wrote: post #15

With increases in productivity from systems like this, and a guaranteed bottom line improvement from cutting labor and running leaner teams, has anyone here heard of any large corporations using LLM's as an excuse for headcount reduction yet? In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if this has already played a large behind the scenes role in the layoffs at Google/Microsoft.

I work at a big tech company and there is a complete ban on coding using LLMs. The fear is sending our code for the model to learn in the future. This is also why then hype around GTP4-powered Office is overhyped. Very rarely will a corporation be OK with GPT-4 running inferences on their internal documents and excel sheets Until an on-prem solution is offered, many of these companies won't get anything out of the te…

How do you reconcile what you just said with the massive popularity of cloud services? The source code is already sitting in the same data center the LLM GPUs are sitting in.

Of course there are some businesses too paranoid to use the cloud, but even intelligence agencies are on board these days.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by localhost »

w-m wrote: post #33

I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…

While I don't remember to use it (too much AI in too many tools!) Warp has this feature as well "Warp AI". This is what it told me for the demo scenario:

  ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -i watermark.png -filter_complex "overlay=10:10" output.mp4
Bunch of descriptive words too.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by brookst »

AlexandrB wrote: post #97
dijit wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone asked me to pay for a team subscription for Copilot. As I'm CTO (and thus legally responsible for those agreements that you normally just click through); I read the terms of service, and they do not actually grant license to the code. They say in very clear terms: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING SUGGESTIONS. So, as I don't want to encourage people to think that they can simply copy over copilot solutions I dec…

There's also another risk, which is that copilot generated code may not be copyrightable[1]. I'm not sure how that would play out as part of a large codebase, but something to watch closely. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-copyright-office-says-so... > The office reiterated Wednesday that copyright protection depends on the amount of human creativity involved, and that the most popular AI systems likely do no…

Isn’t software copyrighted as a whole, not line-by-line?

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Post by Someone1234 »

Just to save others from wasting their time (and free trial): The Copilot extension in full Visual Studio (i.e. NOT VS Code) is super terrible, broken, and buggy. It is so bad it is worse than nothing (literally, it can make Visual Studio lag out). But don't take my word for it, read the reviews:

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c...

This is the polar opposite of VS Code where it works super well and reviews great accordingly. In my opinion if you're a Visual Studio developer who wants AI assist, you'll need to figure out how to open your solution in VS Code instead to use Copilot or just pay the $20/month for ChatGPT Plus then copy/paste.

PS - This isn't a version specific thing, it has been broken since launch. They've been replying to reviews with "Try Copilot version [vNext] with Visual Studio [latest]" since last December to last week, yet the one-star reviews keep coming in unabated. Funny enough they recently replied to a complaint with "The VS Code version does this!"

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by retrocryptid »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #53
dw_arthur wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's something really satisfying about using a tool that makes you more productive, even more so if you built the tool.

Stochastic Markov Monte Carlo cut and paste is clearly more powerful than deterministic cut and paste.

I think the gnu emacs code base is proof of this statement. I'm fairly certain they fed the source into disassociated press and kept doing it until it compiled.
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