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Please do remove the 72 trillion buttons plastered over the steering wheel.
Agreed. Interestingly, only on higher end vehicles have I seen more appealing/simpler steering wheels (Audi, in my experience).
It is a good place for additional controls that the driver may need to use, without taking hands off the steering wheel.
I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.
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So I daily drive a 1988 saab 900, with very nice haptic controls. My engine blew up at the end of february. In the last 4 weeks I have been driving my wife's car, a 1990 Saab 9000. Automatic Climate Control is great. Last week I got the 900 back up and running and it's such a stunning difference between a car that was engineered originally in the 70's and one that was 'new' in the late 80s. In my 900 there's basicall…
I'm somewhat interested in older cars, but a big deterrent for me has been safety. I guess this is just a risk in driving an older car. A lot of my driving is on the highway going 70+ MPH, so I suppose if my commute consisted of roads with half the speed limit or less then it'd be more of a consideration.
Saab 9-5 I, 98 - 09. Good security. At least 20% better than the average
Saab 9-3 II, 03 - 12. Good security. At least 20% better than the average
Saab 9-3, 98 - 02. Good security. At least 20% better than the average
Saab 900 II, 94 - 98. Good security. At least 20% better than the average
Saab 9000, 85 - 98. Average security
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As a counter to all the replies, I have owned nothing but Hyundai and Kia since high school, and my family has owned several Kia and Hyundai vehicles. It would take something very major for me to consider another brand. Their warranties are outstanding and long. My Kia engine was part of a recall, had an issue, but was then replaced out of warranty for free in less than a week during 2020. The engine now has a lifeti…
I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…
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Yup. Additionally, unpredictable buttons are worse than a predictable touchscreen. Buttons should be unique visually and by shape, and perform as you expect them to (no eating/missing/etc inputs).
The physical buttons aren't moving around, I don't think these things are similar.
The cost of a physical button with less consistency than a touch screen, at least initially. Worst of both worlds.
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I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…
The way your comment reads is that 2022 and newer models are safe. Did something change in 2021?
I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.
My parents had a 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe top trim, and the design was a mess. A part from lane keeping, it had nothing my 10+ years older Lexus RX didn't have, and I found so many aspects of driving it counter-intuitive. I'm glad they are keeping real buttons, but I also hope they start removing things/make them simpler.
Of course Tesla's 2016 demo video of its self-driving feature was faked^1. There were several crashes, some fatal, resulting from Tesla's alleged self-driving feature. The company is being sued by multiple parties for breach of warranty.^2 Stay tuned.
1. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/01/tesla-staged-2016-self-...
2. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.40...
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I can’t speak for their EV line, but no media is talking about how crappy their engines are. I won’t touch a KIA or Hyundai and I have zero qualms speaking up about it. My brother and I both needed new engines after 50,000 miles with normal wear and maintenance. If you read up on oil consumption you will discover they have had problem’s continually since 2014. Last I checked the 2021 +models are still affected. Getti…
They do have a history of cheaping on parts. When we had a KIA, all sorts of problems with CV joints, and power steering components, all expiring around 130,000km or so. Just lower quality seals & parts on drivetrain components, that lasted just until out of drivetrain warranty, if I recall. Their EVs seem well built, from watching Sandy Munro videos, anyways. (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFytqIMp0A ) But t…
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As a counter to all the replies, I have owned nothing but Hyundai and Kia since high school, and my family has owned several Kia and Hyundai vehicles. It would take something very major for me to consider another brand. Their warranties are outstanding and long. My Kia engine was part of a recall, had an issue, but was then replaced out of warranty for free in less than a week during 2020. The engine now has a lifeti…
I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…
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I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home.
I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine.
It's low tech, and non-obvious.