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I bought a Chevy Bolt vs a Model 3 for this and CarPlay. It is so well designed and every time I need something it is right where I expect it. Could I learn the touch interface? Of course, but driving is often done subconsciously and touch is not amenable to that type of automatic interaction. I wanted a car, not a toy. (I am aware of the irony regarding the unfortunate proportions of the Bolt making it look like a t…
I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.
I can’t speak for their EV line, but no media is talking about how crappy their engines are. I won’t touch a KIA or Hyundai and I have zero qualms speaking up about it. My brother and I both needed new engines after 50,000 miles with normal wear and maintenance. If you read up on oil consumption you will discover they have had problem’s continually since 2014. Last I checked the 2021 +models are still affected. Getti…
2) People never have a very good answer for which physical buttons cars like Teslas are missing. There's physical controls for all driving functions, volume, music play/pause, music next/previous. Adjusting climate is in a muscle-memoryable fixed position, not in some menu. You certainly aren't supposed to be adjusting your mirrors or something while driving.
I have a 2022 VW Golf GTI. It has no buttons for the climate control and haptic buttons for the steering wheel controls. I think there's some assumptions the designers might have made about how people would use the system: The first is how HVAC systems work in a house, old cars, and new cars. - Home window and central ACs (at least all the ones I've seen) can't adjust the temperate of the air that comes out, it's tie…
Last year with physical tach and speedo, first year with adaptive cruise.
And it’s a mk7 so it still has buttons for most things.
Oh and it’s a manual, which is getting obnoxiously hard to find on anything.
I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.
I can’t speak for their EV line, but no media is talking about how crappy their engines are. I won’t touch a KIA or Hyundai and I have zero qualms speaking up about it. My brother and I both needed new engines after 50,000 miles with normal wear and maintenance. If you read up on oil consumption you will discover they have had problem’s continually since 2014. Last I checked the 2021 +models are still affected. Getti…
Their EVs seem well built, from watching Sandy Munro videos, anyways. (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFytqIMp0A)
But they're also so-far all in the upper tier of price ranges. Nobody is really making a 'budget' EV yet, apart from maybe GM with the Bolt.
Wow, talk about missing the point. Four grids of uniform buttons, they think that's an improvement over a touchscreen? There is zero practical distinction between taking your eyes off the road to see which button you're pushing vs taking your eyes of the road to see which part of the screen you're touching. GOOD HVAC/radio design means you can perform ALL essential functions WITHOUT taking your eyes off the road AT A…
Also, as per the other content: you can type and remember 100+ buttons.
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I’m pretty sure you regularly use a piece of plastic with 104 near identical buttons without looking at any of them.
Not identical: they typically have raised markers on two of the home row keys precisely to help with orientation. And, well, your hands are already positioned over them much of the time, so relative identification is much easier. Not so with these buttons.
Wow, talk about missing the point. Four grids of uniform buttons, they think that's an improvement over a touchscreen? There is zero practical distinction between taking your eyes off the road to see which button you're pushing vs taking your eyes of the road to see which part of the screen you're touching. GOOD HVAC/radio design means you can perform ALL essential functions WITHOUT taking your eyes off the road AT A…
Buttons should be unique visually and by shape, and perform as you expect them to (no eating/missing/etc inputs).
I miss my Prius, which had a large dedicated button on the dashboard to switch the speedometer from MPH to km/h. (US model) I don’t know why it was there but I did like to push it.
Wow, talk about missing the point. Four grids of uniform buttons, they think that's an improvement over a touchscreen? There is zero practical distinction between taking your eyes off the road to see which button you're pushing vs taking your eyes of the road to see which part of the screen you're touching. GOOD HVAC/radio design means you can perform ALL essential functions WITHOUT taking your eyes off the road AT A…
Yup. Additionally, unpredictable buttons are worse than a predictable touchscreen. Buttons should be unique visually and by shape, and perform as you expect them to (no eating/missing/etc inputs).