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Re: Bing Image Creator

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post #70

This could indeed be a wrapper for something like Dall-E 2. Like the latter, they seem to occasionally force some images to be (what US Americans consider) "diverse", i.e. making figures black even when it makes no sense. The results can be quite disturbing: https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait...

Are brown squirrels disturbing?

Re: Bing Image Creator

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is creating an image a substitute for searching for an existing image?

It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).

I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find.

Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?

Re: Bing Image Creator

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).

I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find. Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?

Memes

Re: Bing Image Creator

#94
post #88

I'm definitely not a hater of these technologies and I'd actually like to play around with them. I'm more concerned with how these language models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be. If Chrome gets tied with Bard and Edge gets tied with Chatbot, Image Creator, etc. where's that leave Firefox and other "niche" browsers?

I think this kind of browser tie-in should be illegal. I've been using Bing Chatbot for the past few weeks on Firefox by using the user-agent switcher extension to make it think I'm on Edge. It works flawlessly. So there's 0 technical reason for requiring Edge, it's all just a weird tactic to get people using Edge. Like a fast food drive-thru that only serves Mercedes-Benz cars.

Re: Bing Image Creator

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post #88

I'm definitely not a hater of these technologies and I'd actually like to play around with them. I'm more concerned with how these language models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be. If Chrome gets tied with Bard and Edge gets tied with Chatbot, Image Creator, etc. where's that leave Firefox and other "niche" browsers?

I would be more concerned if we don't get to the point of decent local models for every task, because of the power these companies would have

Re: Bing Image Creator

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post #88

I'm definitely not a hater of these technologies and I'd actually like to play around with them. I'm more concerned with how these language models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be. If Chrome gets tied with Bard and Edge gets tied with Chatbot, Image Creator, etc. where's that leave Firefox and other "niche" browsers?

> models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be

If you've got the budget buy a 7950X / 64 GB of RAM / 4090 GPU (about $4K ?) and run StableDiffusion + other free tools locally.

It's just plain amazing. It's plenty quick and there are more and more tools every day that passes by.

I've been demo'ed SD+LoRA by someone who knows who to additionally train the model: it's jaw dropping.

And it's not tied to a company. And it's not politically correct if you don't want it to be. And it's not sniffing your every keystrokes.

Re: Bing Image Creator

#97
post #53

I tried this out today and was very impressed by the results. Remember when DALLE came out less than a year ago and people were amazed by the avocado armchair? Between this and Midjourney v5, the quality of AI generated art is rapidly approaching human level and I can see it getting there very soon.

Midjourney, DALL-E, and many of these generative AIs have reached human-level for a long time. The problem is - unlike a human - it's pretty hard to get them to do something close to what you have in mind. Sure, if you try a few dozen prompts - you'll probably eventually get something close to what you want. And considering the cost of this will approach free - it's going to be hard for artists to compete. I tried ge…

I reckon we’ll move out of the prompt difficulty phase you mention simply when the context window gets big enough.

If you were able to give midjourney a short textual instruction, a hand drawn sketch and a reference image from a human artist all together as a prompt then I’m pretty sure it could produce the image of a boy doing a high jump as you intent.

We already see extended length multimedia prompts in GPT4 so it’s doesn’t seem like an impossible leap for midjourney/DALL-E etc

Re: Bing Image Creator

#98
post #70

This could indeed be a wrapper for something like Dall-E 2. Like the latter, they seem to occasionally force some images to be (what US Americans consider) "diverse", i.e. making figures black even when it makes no sense. The results can be quite disturbing: https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait...

I put in "Princess Peach" prompt and got this: https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach/641a332132...

Re: Bing Image Creator

#99
post #34

I feel like I'm looking at aliens wearing people's skin. https://kota.is/qpxa1.png Nightmare inducing. I hate it. https://kota.is/X57J5.png Ugh, this legit makes my stomach turn. https://kota.is/Q2hUI.jpg It's like a bad amusement park ride; no thanks.

The models at the moment don't do well on scenes where the faces are small and far away. I assume it's due to training on 256px by 256px images and not being able to capture enough detail in that, so the gens look horrible like this.

At present, when using Stable Diffusion, you can address this as part of your workflow by fixing the faces with inpainting / upscaling. This can also be automated in a scriptable way using the Unprompted extension.

Re: Bing Image Creator

#100

It seems strange to me to put this into a search engine. What is the relationship between these two web apps? I suspect Microsoft is trying to do anything imaginable to drive people to bing search for ad revenue, but this one seems a bit shoehorned.

>It seems strange to me to put this into a search engine. What is the relationship between these two web apps?

It's searching the latent space.

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