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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #357

See also: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246253 How about we use that thread for comments about the product itself, and this thread for comments about the waitlist/country/account restrictions.

I got my invite a couple hours after joining the waitlist.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #357

See also: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246253 How about we use that thread for comments about the product itself, and this thread for comments about the waitlist/country/account restrictions.

I got my invite a couple hours after joining the waitlist.

Yes, others have been saying something similar.

The discussion is partitioned almost evenly between these two distinct topics, though, so I think it makes sense to keep the threads separate.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#363

Apparently if you are a Google One member you get priority access? Because you’re a Google One member, we’d like to offer you the opportunity to be among the first to sign up for the new Bard experience and provide feedback. Think of Bard as your creative and helpful collaborator, here to bring your ideas to life using generative AI.

I got the same email, but when I click through it just tells me I'm on the waitlist.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

ChatGPT wasn't available to everyone initially (huge waitlist).

Noone is complaiing about the waitlist. Having the waitlist be based on GeoLocation is what is the problem here.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#365

These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...

Imagine your company had 2 B users. Would you launch a new compute-intensive experimental feature to everyone? or would you put a mechanism to control the gradual rollout?

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Predicting the future correctly isn't a matter of competence... And yes, even Google can't scale infinitely in the face of an actual physical resource constraint. When I worked there, there was a period when there was a shortage of memory chips, which required a lot of creativity. I suspect the current period is very constrained by how fast AI/ML focused chips can be manufactured.

> Predicting the future correctly isn't a matter of competence... And yes, even Google can't scale infinitely in the face of an actual physical resource constraint. In order to not geo-block, Google would need to be able to scale infinitely? What kind of straw man is this? > there was a shortage of memory chips, which required a lot of creativity. Geo-blocking doesn't strike me as particularly creative as far as solu…

:shrug: Yeah it's actually very difficult to launch a very resource intensive product globally all at once. It's not really an excuse, it's just a real problem that Google has. It limits what they can launch and how they can do it, because anything they launch will get used by a huge number of people right away, and everyone expects them to achieve a magical level of performance at that scale. Rolling out region by region based on where data centers are located and what hardware is deployed in them is one possible way to deal with this. I don't think it's good, really, I just think it's unsurprising.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

Whether you agree with it or not, the EU has proved itself to take consistently anti-big US tech stances, so I can see why they might be deterred from releasing to that market without obvious financial benefits.

> the EU has proved itself to take consistently anti-big US tech stances

Is that how you call trying to protect consumers over there? Really, there are genuinely good reasons for those "stances".

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

Since it's not available in our countries, we cannot do much but complain, can we?

If you already are aware that you don't have anything valuable to contribute to a thread, you can refrain from posting until you do.

These are not for venting.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

basically not all countries speak english as a first language, so it wouldn't make sense to put it in all countries. secondly, staggered rollout is pretty common

No, language doesn't make sense. Everyone in Sweden knows English. Actually nowadays I bet higher percentage of Swedes know English than know Swedish.

> Actually nowadays I bet higher percentage of Swedes know English than know Swedish.

Is that hyperbole? Because that would be very sad if true, culturally speaking. There are 5 different official languages in my country (Spain) and there are several laws to prevent them from becoming extinct for this very reason.

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