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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

EToS wrote: post #211
endtime wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

Its like paying to be a second class citizen! :)

Every once in a while I think of paying the Workspace ransom, hoping it would keep Google from potentially locking me out of my account for nebulously defined reasons. Then I come across stories like these how Workspace gives you an interior product (and likely no account protection).

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by rchaud »

Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

It's not '99 anymore and people aren't going to get excited about a better search engine. The Internet economy is completely about passive consumption now. AI obviously has a lot of legitimate behind the scenes use cases, but I see the search end of it flopping.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by egillie »

sho_hn wrote: post #126
hypercube33 wrote: post #119

These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

I paid $.99 on eBay to get an invite back in the day!

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by quitit »

tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Join our social media platform where none of your friends are! (and can't join even if they want to!)

- Google+

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by manojlds »

Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

Ironic given how Gmail started.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by admissionsguy »

Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

Since it's not available in our countries, we cannot do much but complain, can we?

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Post by greycol »

lordnacho wrote: post #345
crazygringo wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. You have to go through legal review in every country, is this breaking an accessibility law in Australia or a copyright law in Argentina or a localization law in Canada or an antitrust law in the EU? That's just how it works. That stuff takes months, so do you prefer to withhold it from the US until that's all completed? In a competitive environment that moves quickly, that's not an option.

Over the years I've come to the conclusion that the lawyers are very confident in their legal opinions, but they are still just opinions that other lawyers are confident are the other way. My guess is some lawyer at firm A will say "oh we can't just do that, I'm sure we can't" while another lawyer in firm B presented with the same initiative will go "yeah we can totally do that, no problem at all, I'm sure we can". W…

As the saying goes "Good lawyers tell you why you shouldn't do something, great lawyers tell you how you can."

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by a_f »

endtime wrote: post #180
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

I wonder if it is for the best - imagine getting locked out of your work account becuase of some flagged request or response in Bard

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by jalk »

rchaud wrote: post #352
Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

It's not '99 anymore and people aren't going to get excited about a better search engine. The Internet economy is completely about passive consumption now. AI obviously has a lot of legitimate behind the scenes use cases, but I see the search end of it flopping.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Plenty of useful features have been added to google search since '99 - Featured snippets, weather forecasts, calculations / unit/currency conversion and so on.

I'm sure the majority of people search for actual questions and not just keywords like previously - and take the first hit, so the process of selecting a link and reading past the initial noise / ads (like long intros in youtube videos) can become a thing of the past

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