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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by truthsayer123 »

neel8986 wrote: post #224
Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

This is a very specific HN sentiment. Not sure if the same sentiment is shared by general public

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Post by djbusby »

londons_explore wrote: post #267
whoisjuan wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of bureaucratic thinking that is resulting in Google being incapable of innovation.

Just take the legal risk and launch globally. Yes, some country might have some obscure law about AI chatbots imitating veterans during Ramadan... And if that's the case, then just pay the fine, patch the software, and move on. Better than have the whole product fail because competitors won the market with a global launch.

Yea! Better to ask forgiveness than permission. (/s)

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Post by notRobot »

gkfasdfasdf wrote: post #297

Apparently if you are a Google One member you get priority access? Because you’re a Google One member, we’d like to offer you the opportunity to be among the first to sign up for the new Bard experience and provide feedback. Think of Bard as your creative and helpful collaborator, here to bring your ideas to life using generative AI.

Unfortunately not if you're a Google One member outside the US.

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Post by Bjartr »

jonas21 wrote: post #217
caddemon wrote: post #182

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There also could be legal reasons, I have no idea if it's the case here but theoretically I could imagine something like "right to be forgotten" interacting oddly with LLMs.

Also libel (if the LLM makes up facts about someone), copyright (if it reproduces content), privacy (if some of the data it trained on wasn't intended to be public), etc. And on top of that, there are plenty of novel things that may or may not be illegal. If it can be tricked into making a pro-Nazi statement, is it violating German law? What if it offers medical or legal advice without a license? It's a pretty big le…

That's the cost of being first to market on something like this. You can't both play it safe and lead the pack.

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Post by wahnfrieden »

crazygringo wrote: post #294
wahnfrieden wrote: post #290

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"That's just how it works" is trivially invalidated by looking at how it works beyond the walls of this particular corp, eg Bing. So all you're saying is that however the powers that be behave is how they ought to behave

I think this is something Bing had been planning for months, so they had time to do all this review in advance? While Google was caught flat-footed and has had to rush this in response. I'm basing this just on what I've read, of course. And if that's the case, I don't think my explanation is invalidated at all, nor "trivially".

MS announced and shipped OpenAI / GPT based tech for years now

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Post by crazygringo »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #305
crazygringo wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is something Bing had been planning for months, so they had time to do all this review in advance? While Google was caught flat-footed and has had to rush this in response. I'm basing this just on what I've read, of course. And if that's the case, I don't think my explanation is invalidated at all, nor "trivially".

MS announced and shipped OpenAI / GPT based tech for years now

I don't know what product you are referring to that MS has shipped for years.

I'm referring to ChatGPT and Bing integration, which is very recent. That was a big surprise to everyone AFAIK.

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Post by tpmx »

amrb wrote: post #161
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Can anyone confirm VPN's works for signup?

I signed up via Mullvad VPN (picked a UK location) about an hour after this story was posted. Just got access 10 minutes ago (3 hours later).

After getting access: You do need to have a US/UK IP to use it but they don't seem to use any VPN detection heuristics - which would be trivial for them since I'm signed in to them using multiple private/work accounts on multiple machines without VPN.

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Post by Arnavion »

wilg wrote: post #293
endtime wrote: post #180

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> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

I do not understand why Google makes it so difficult to pay them for a custom email domain.

Does it? I have no problem paying them for mine.

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Post by peyton »

Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

Having played with it, it’s just not that good compared to ChatGPT.
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