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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by system16 »

sho_hn wrote: post #126
hypercube33 wrote: post #119

These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

I think Gmail was a special case: a highly anticipated product that was better than anything else out there, it had a killer feature that was unheard of (1GB of storage and growing!), and you could immediately use it as your main email.

It didn't work out so well when they tried to reproduce that success by making Google Buzz invite-only. My feed consisted of a few people posting "buzz!" and then never posting again. Google+ was similar.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by tapland »

pwb25 wrote: post #197
impulser_ wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're under estimating the cost to run these models at scale. This isn't "just text"

how is a local limitation solving anything of this other than on paper though? If so, they should if something start in a small country...

Or like, state by state in the US

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Post by anonyfox »

neel8986 wrote: post #224
Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

This is a very specific HN sentiment. Not sure if the same sentiment is shared by general public

nontechnical people around me are turning for bing for search because its suddenly "cool" (also: that iphone app is actually cool!), or don't even use google AT ALL for most of their everyday stuff - people "tiktok" stuff now or play with that "ChatBot".

Between corporate users going all-in on microsoft software + apple hardware, people in private only really have one thing thats flocking them towards some google, and that is... android. This and the longform tiktoks called "youtube".

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Post by ar7hur »

endtime wrote: post #180
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

+1 I came here to write this comment word for word. The speed of IBM-ization of Google is astounding.

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Post by [deleted] »

anonyfox wrote: post #274
neel8986 wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very specific HN sentiment. Not sure if the same sentiment is shared by general public

nontechnical people around me are turning for bing for search because its suddenly "cool" (also: that iphone app is actually cool!), or don't even use google AT ALL for most of their everyday stuff - people "tiktok" stuff now or play with that "ChatBot". Between corporate users going all-in on microsoft software + apple hardware, people in private only really have one thing thats flocking them towards some google, an…

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Post by ruslanmsv »

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!

all recent google product launches — are disappointment. Google is slowly dying.

It needs to change its virgin management for new chad one

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Post by crazygringo »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #227
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Not trying to be rude, but when you're a company the size of Google - that's had MASSIVE lawsuits - you can't just willy-nilly release products globally.

Exactly. You have to go through legal review in every country, is this breaking an accessibility law in Australia or a copyright law in Argentina or a localization law in Canada or an antitrust law in the EU?

That's just how it works. That stuff takes months, so do you prefer to withhold it from the US until that's all completed? In a competitive environment that moves quickly, that's not an option.

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Post by prepend »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #227
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Not trying to be rude, but when you're a company the size of Google - that's had MASSIVE lawsuits - you can't just willy-nilly release products globally.

Is chatgpt available globally? Is bing available globally?

I find it funny when massive corporations say they can’t legally figure stuff out and the other massive corporations do it.

It must feel back to be the lawyer who can’t work this stuff out when other lawyers can. Perhaps similar to when I think some programming is impossible and then see it done in the wild in production.

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Post by oezi »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #199
Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-US countries like to fine US tech companies and create regulations ect. which we are already seeing in the EU wrt AI. So it makes sense why they don't want to be involved in that kind of thing before there is even a real product. That is, there is no upside for them aside from market share, which I agree is important but does not alone explain Google's product failures, about which much has already been written.

Sure. Meanwhile ChatGPT is used everywhere in France, and it's now synonymous with AI for most people in Europe. Game over.

Except that ChatGPT is such a bad name for a product. I don't think Bard is much better but I don't think ChatGPT is going to be a household name.
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