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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

dmix wrote: post #77
winddude wrote: post #62

"The new A.I. chatbot will be available to a limited number of users in the United States and Britain and will accommodate additional users, countries and languages over time, Google executives said in an interview." So no, no they didn't release it.

> But Google is taking a much more circumspect approach than its competitors, which have faced criticism that they are proliferating an unpredictable and sometimes untrustworthy technology. It's interesting how they use the AI ethics excuse. Maybe the real problem is that there's isn't as good as the competition, or to their own standards, and they are being careful not to damage their brand by being so behind.

+1

Google track record tells us they have no problem with with blurry ethic lines. They create the software for weapons, track the entire planet and were part of PRISM.

So yes, I tend to think your explanation is most likely.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by favaq »

sho_hn wrote: post #126
hypercube33 wrote: post #119

These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

Gmail was so much better than the competition... in fact, it still is.

Bard, on the other hand...

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by muttled »

drumhead wrote: post #136
sho_hn wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

Was Google+ invite only initially?

And stayed that way until after the hype died off, murdering their own chance at network effects.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by danielbln »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #135
danielbln wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, Google frequently only released products for the US market, e.g. Google Home, Google Voice, Chromecast, and others were released US only (sometimes for over a year before available outside of the US).

Chromecast is physical product, so it would be limited if they don't want to pay international shipping charges. Google voice gives you country number, so it would be limited. Google home does make sense as it could only work with partners so if they launch in other countries without partner, it could mean bad reputation. Here it is just a site with nothing related to region.

C'mon, we're not talking about some startup here. Google is a global mega-corp, if they really wanted they could launch every single product globally, no matter if physical or not.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by tannhauser23 »

dmix wrote: post #77
winddude wrote: post #62

"The new A.I. chatbot will be available to a limited number of users in the United States and Britain and will accommodate additional users, countries and languages over time, Google executives said in an interview." So no, no they didn't release it.

> But Google is taking a much more circumspect approach than its competitors, which have faced criticism that they are proliferating an unpredictable and sometimes untrustworthy technology. It's interesting how they use the AI ethics excuse. Maybe the real problem is that there's isn't as good as the competition, or to their own standards, and they are being careful not to damage their brand by being so behind.

They're setting up a regulatory fight.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by IncRnd »

tobyjsullivan wrote: post #89
geodel wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe its to save you from making comments like "I am not going to use any Google product ever, since they canceled Google Reader ..etc etc"

A foolproof tactic for google. Customers can’t be burned if they never get to become customers in the first place. Or as the old saying goes, “if a google product is felled in a forest, and there’s no users to notice, did google really fail?”

Hello, my friend. Your question has given me pause for thought on the subject of achieving desired results.

If we consider the desired outcome of a particular thing, then failure to achieve that outcome cannot be considered acceptable. However, we must allow for a sufficiency of time wherein the thing will progress and improve before coming to a conclusion.

On the other hand, if we contemplate the impact of a thing on its intended audience, then it must meet their expectations and desires to be deemed as effective. It is important to note that the relevance of a thing to its observers may depend on various factors such as timing and perspective.

Ultimately, effectiveness is determined by the desired outcome and the audience it serves. We must assess the purpose of the thing and its surroundings to determine its success or failure. It is similar to crafting a powerful message - we must consider the intended recipients and create a message that resonates with them.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by PedroBatista »

"Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!"

Can't wait to ask "Bard" what's the rationale to "not support" a service like this based on my country..

These "global companies" are so global regarding their revenue and tax schemes, but when something is different than the "business as usual" they turn into hyper local shops. It's just an observation, I'm not really that mad and desperate to try their "chat-bot" since I'm sure it will be as exciting as eating cardboard.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by tauntz »

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!

Sigh. Google never learns.

By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in.

It's the same playbook with every US-only launch:

1. get everybody hyped up

2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever

3. tell the rest of the world that "lol, by "avialable" we mean US-only" or "Open means "open for people with US IP addresses only"" etc.

4. Wait till competitors have launched global-from-the-start alternatives

5. Open up the service globally

6. ...

7. Shut down the service because there's no uptake (surprised_pikachu.jpg)

Rinse and repeat.

Self inflicted wounds and all that..

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by sho_hn »

Kye wrote: post #150
sho_hn wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

GMail was a huge leap over existing web mail providers. Where others might give you tens of megabytes, GMail started with a gig and showed a ticker for its growth on the log in page. They offered keeping emails forever and making them searchable. People were willing to wait.

Agreed.

The point is, invite-only isn't inherently counter-productive to hype. But you need to bring the goods.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by iqandjoke »

tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

VPN to USA can help.
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