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Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

LightMachine wrote: post #125
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #87

I get that this isn't a trivial service to scale and deploy, but the $20/month fee to use ChatGPT reliably is one of the most unreliable and low-value products I subscribe to. It's basically a toy, and while I'm curious to learn to use it effectively and understand how it might fit into my workflows, I can't help but feel like I'm doing them more of a favour than they are me. It's kind of like ChatGPT Plus is more on…

Well I can't disagree more. I feel like that's the best value I get for $20 among everything I pay, by at least 3 orders of magnitude. This thing does so much for me, I can't live without it anymore. When it is down I just log in on playground and pay for the API. It got to this point...

It sounds like the issue is probably that I’m bad at using it, haha. Many of you are getting your money’s worth, so I should maybe simmer down and focus on getting more utility from it.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by namaria »

bavila wrote: post #143
tkiolp4 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad: - you learn a lot of stuff otherwise you wouldn’t have learned - you have material to talk about in your daily standups - your colleagues recognize your effort and once you fix it you get their admiration Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up the next Jira ticket. So boring.

> Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad Haha, it is when you have a 24-hour turnaround deadline. This project was (and still is) a BFD at my company, and time is of the essence. My colleagues would not be impressed by my ability to tell a fun war story; they are impressed by my ability to ship and do it fast . > Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up t…

>it's a time for hunting and killing

I ask myself if foregoing the chance to learn under fire and outsourcing it to a corporate tool is extracting the right value from it. Yeah you get the task on hand done. Maybe means money comes in. Trumps everything right? But next time you'll depend on this remote API to hold your hands again. What if it costs 10x as much then, or is now proprietary and unavailable to you?

We're all giving up learning for short term convenience? Is that what makes good engineers?

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

hansvm wrote: post #158
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #87

I get that this isn't a trivial service to scale and deploy, but the $20/month fee to use ChatGPT reliably is one of the most unreliable and low-value products I subscribe to. It's basically a toy, and while I'm curious to learn to use it effectively and understand how it might fit into my workflows, I can't help but feel like I'm doing them more of a favour than they are me. It's kind of like ChatGPT Plus is more on…

The API is cheaper (up to around 330 in-depth queries per day), more powerful, easier to use, by definition not subject to the whims of history unavailability, and doesn't seem to be down when the web platform is down. I wasted half a day making a nice frontend, but it was unaffected by today's outage and got better results than when I was restricted to the web UI.

>The API is cheaper

Not for GPT-4 it isn't.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by reportgunner »

furyofantares wrote: post #107
dizhn wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you doing with it. I am seeing this kind of comment a lot but nobody seems to actually say what it is this tool can actually do for them. My personal experience with it makes me really wonder.

By far the biggest timesaver has been having it write shell scripts for any task that's even a little tedious. I'm not good at shell scripts, so this would typically never be worthwhile for me to do for any one-off task. Generally anything where I'm working with technology I'm not an expert on, and might not find it worth it to do learn the thing just to get the task at hand done. Prompt: "write a powershell script t…

Aha so AI is saving you time because it takes you a lot of time to run magick --help

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by circuit10 »

thaeli wrote: post #93
vagabund wrote: post #78

Does not necessarily inspire confidence that the organization which self-describes their AI containment challenge as an existential threat to humanity can't secure users' chat histories.

Just emphasizes how much the "existential threat" stuff is a scare tactic to advocate for regulatory capture.

It is a real concern that we need to take seriously

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by dizhn »

kilbuz wrote: post #115
dizhn wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you doing with it. I am seeing this kind of comment a lot but nobody seems to actually say what it is this tool can actually do for them. My personal experience with it makes me really wonder.

I use it to write data-driven shiny apps and JS frontends.

With respect, this is the kind of answer I said I was seeing everywhere. Can you expand on this a little bit?

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by soganess »

reportgunner wrote: post #164
furyofantares wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By far the biggest timesaver has been having it write shell scripts for any task that's even a little tedious. I'm not good at shell scripts, so this would typically never be worthwhile for me to do for any one-off task. Generally anything where I'm working with technology I'm not an expert on, and might not find it worth it to do learn the thing just to get the task at hand done. Prompt: "write a powershell script t…

Aha so AI is saving you time because it takes you a lot of time to run magick --help

Nope, nawh, no thank you. Not every tool gets to live rent-free in my head.

Sometimes I just want to do a thing once. Often times, I don't care how it is done, I just want the finished product. magick is not a single-purpose tool and has more options than switches/dials/gauges on a jumbo jet. Lord forbid I don't know what an affine transformation is, or how the canny algo work. Are those what I need? I don't know, now I'm googling it...

...Wait darnit, why was I looking this up, oh yeah, I need to batch edit a bunch of...

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by lsajdn872he »

justin_ wrote: post #50
doctoboggan wrote: post #25

Last time something like this was posted, someone from OpenAI said those weren't other peoples chat history, they were randomly generated chat titles. (which is what happens when you prompt GPT with a blank line)

I definitely saw a chat history that wasn't one I started. It was a single question and response in Japanese (which I don't know). The title in the sidebar seemed to match the conversation. Edit: I'm getting upvoted, so I want to clarify that I don't have proof, but this did happen, only for a single chat. I dumped all the text into Google Translate (don't judge me - you'd do the same!) and it was a boring scientific…

Check your translate history: https://translate.google.com/history

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by furyofantares »

reportgunner wrote: post #164
furyofantares wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By far the biggest timesaver has been having it write shell scripts for any task that's even a little tedious. I'm not good at shell scripts, so this would typically never be worthwhile for me to do for any one-off task. Generally anything where I'm working with technology I'm not an expert on, and might not find it worth it to do learn the thing just to get the task at hand done. Prompt: "write a powershell script t…

Aha so AI is saving you time because it takes you a lot of time to run magick --help

You ever notice how it takes students months to learn to be competent in a programming language in school, then months to learn their second one in school, but if instead of learning the second one in school they get a job and just dive right into the codebase of some unfamiliar language, they can work in it instantly?

That's how I feel about learning imagemagick by starting with a script that does the task I want instead of learning via magick --help.

I actually know quite a bit about the options available in imagemagick now, way faster than if I had dug into the docs myself, and I also instantly had a solution.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

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Post by dang »

zamadatix wrote: post #140
jraph wrote: post #139

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> Non-prefixed links are precisely the ones that make you reach what the opener prefers How so? Is this a feature for people who have a Reddit account?

Yeah, it's a user preference just like top bar color is here. That's why I say the default linking should be unprefixed and the extension should only be needed if you want to change it but don't want to do so via an account. But I was under the assumption the change was to old.-ify it. Had I known it was just to modify the URL I wouldn't have went and made this off-topic rabbithole :).

I'm not sure I've followed this discussion correctly but we do rewrite reddit.com submissions to old.reddit.com, to try to reduce off-topic flamewars about the 'new' interface.

And yeah that sucks if you prefer the latter. Sorry.

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