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Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#101

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Pretty weak for something that's supposed to replace our jobs.

It's fooling you into thinking that it's less smart than it really is. Secretly, it's improving itself exponentially and you'll find out about it when it's too late.

Or it's secretly feeding on its own untruths and getting progressively worse, but it's good enough for now that everyone will become dependent on it and we'll just have to accept whatever nonsense it makes up.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#102

I get that this isn't a trivial service to scale and deploy, but the $20/month fee to use ChatGPT reliably is one of the most unreliable and low-value products I subscribe to. It's basically a toy, and while I'm curious to learn to use it effectively and understand how it might fit into my workflows, I can't help but feel like I'm doing them more of a favour than they are me. It's kind of like ChatGPT Plus is more on…

> I get that this isn't a trivial service to scale and deploy, but the $20/month fee to use ChatGPT reliably is one of the most unreliable and low-value products I subscribe to. Meanwhile, after 25 happy years in the industry, I suddenly don't want to work when it's down. It's hard for me to imagine describing it as low-value (though I certainly believe you that it has been to you.)

I should clarify. I'm gradually learning to make it more useful but the time/effort input so far could have easily been put towards getting more work done than I've gotten out of it. I'm okay with that; I do think it will pay off as I figure out what it can do well for me that I'm not great at. I'm constantly thinking of simple tools I could build with it that could genuinely save me (and others) time.

One cool thing is feeding it software documentation and telling it to generate boilerplate for something you need. Like, say React is brand new and post-GPT-learning-era, and the 'getting started' docs don't suit your use case well – you could ask it to make something aligned with what you're shooting for. Assuming it's close to correct, this can be a useful jumpstart.

It actually does an okay job. It really is all about the prompts. Good, concise documentation can yield great results. I find this nice for getting me over the hump of deciding if I care about some software, if it'll suit my needs, etc. It's also a nice little boost in general, simply to avoid manually generating boilerplate. There are so many things to learn and get started with all the time. GPT is like a little gopher to help you navigate the boring parts of libraries or frameworks you're not as enthusiastic about.

I didn't mean to imply GPT is some sort of amateur time-sink of a project. It's impressive and absolutely useful in some ways, and I'm sure I'll discover more ways all the time. At the moment the ~$20 just feels like it might be a generous amount for what I'm getting.

Edit: I guess if I learn to use AI well and it becomes a tool I reach for frequently, the $20 is well invested. In the more immediate sense though, it feels lower value. Hopefully that makes sense.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#103
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What are you doing with it. I am seeing this kind of comment a lot but nobody seems to actually say what it is this tool can actually do for them. My personal experience with it makes me really wonder.

I'm using it to write technical documentation. I can give it some specs and technical points about my project, then prompt it to write the docs. It gets a lot wrong, so I go back and fix it. But it's easier than starting from a blank page. I was planning on spending about a month writing it all and hiring some help, but I'll be done this week with ChatGPT for $20.

That's fascinating, you and I are using it essentially in inverse fashion. I feed it docs to get code, you feed it specs to get docs!

It's easier than starting from a blank page is precisely where my motivations come from. It spurs the neurons a little better when there's something to work with.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#104
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This will bring to the fore all the things that Google does that folks think about as normal features but takes lots of investments to get right. Google would never have a security lapse like this one.

The way it is failing is very Microsofty.

If anything, it reminds me of Cloudbleed.

In terms of easy AuthZ bypasses from Microsoft, the Azure OMIGOD vulnerability [0] comes to mind, aka "CVE-2021-38647 - Remote Code Execution - Remove the Authentication header and you are root."

To be fair to Microsoft, Apple also had one of these (although it only affected your local machine) with CVE-2017-13872 which let you become root by entering the username "root," clicking into the empty password field, and pressing Submit. [1]

I'll repeat my comment from upthread: authorization is hard!

[0] https://www.wiz.io/blog/omigod-critical-vulnerabilities-in-o...

[1] https://objective-see.org/blog/blog_0x24.html

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#105
post #96

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What are you doing with it. I am seeing this kind of comment a lot but nobody seems to actually say what it is this tool can actually do for them. My personal experience with it makes me really wonder.

I'm using it to write technical documentation. I can give it some specs and technical points about my project, then prompt it to write the docs. It gets a lot wrong, so I go back and fix it. But it's easier than starting from a blank page. I was planning on spending about a month writing it all and hiring some help, but I'll be done this week with ChatGPT for $20.

Maybe the technical documentation isn't required with ChatGPT being able to do this? :)

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#106

Last time something like this was posted, someone from OpenAI said those weren't other peoples chat history, they were randomly generated chat titles. (which is what happens when you prompt GPT with a blank line)

How can this happen in 2023? More importantly, how can a well-funded firm like OpenAI allow such lousy database bug to occur in their system? For all the hatred towards Google, I'm sure at least they wouldn't have this kind of problems once they open their (much more powerful) LLM.

A similar issue happened to Steam in 2015 https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/12/25/steam-is-...

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#107
post #96

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> I get that this isn't a trivial service to scale and deploy, but the $20/month fee to use ChatGPT reliably is one of the most unreliable and low-value products I subscribe to. Meanwhile, after 25 happy years in the industry, I suddenly don't want to work when it's down. It's hard for me to imagine describing it as low-value (though I certainly believe you that it has been to you.)

What are you doing with it. I am seeing this kind of comment a lot but nobody seems to actually say what it is this tool can actually do for them. My personal experience with it makes me really wonder.

By far the biggest timesaver has been having it write shell scripts for any task that's even a little tedious. I'm not good at shell scripts, so this would typically never be worthwhile for me to do for any one-off task.

Generally anything where I'm working with technology I'm not an expert on, and might not find it worth it to do learn the thing just to get the task at hand done.

Prompt: "write a powershell script that uses imagemagick to find all .pngs in a given directory, resize them to 400x400, don't squish them and put them in the bottom right if the aspect ratios don't match. apply a mask found in mask.png, convert to jpeg, and rename them removing all spaces from the name, and remove all leading digits and underscores from the name"

This worked right out of the bat. I also didn't know how to make the image mask so I had it teach me that too.

If I was doing this on my own, I'd have had to look up all the imagemagick parameters, I'd have done it as a batch file, and had to look up all the batch file scaffolding required. The powershell script ended up nicer than the batch file would have been, but then I realized I wanted to run it on macos too, so I had it translate it to a zsh script for macos.

Prompt: "i have two directories with a bunch of images in them, i want to merge both directories to a third directory, and any time there's a file with the same name in both directories, i want to view both files and pick which one to keep."

Again, I had it do it both in powershell and as a zsh script. I'd likely have just done this task by hand without even considering scripting it, it was like 100 images I needed to sort through. I'm also actually gonna have to do it again, which I hadn't realized at the time.

Prompt: "i need a formula for google sheets that tells me if the words in two cells have any letters in common".

Once again this is something that I'm not familiar with, I'v never done much with spreadsheets, and would have to look up a whole lot to produce something that works, and it just made it for me. I run a wordle variant called xordle that takes puzzle submissions from users, they often give me invalid puzzles, this change to the submission form will make it so I can tell immediately if a puzzle is invalid.

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#108

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I'm using it to write technical documentation. I can give it some specs and technical points about my project, then prompt it to write the docs. It gets a lot wrong, so I go back and fix it. But it's easier than starting from a blank page. I was planning on spending about a month writing it all and hiring some help, but I'll be done this week with ChatGPT for $20.

That's fascinating, you and I are using it essentially in inverse fashion. I feed it docs to get code, you feed it specs to get docs! It's easier than starting from a blank page is precisely where my motivations come from. It spurs the neurons a little better when there's something to work with.

You two should hang out

Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#109
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Now it says "Unable to load history" in the sidebar. That's an improvement.

I get those very often. All of last week almost, continuously. Can someone build a better history tracker for ChatGPT please? Something that can keep all conversations in a local searchable DB, and also make accessible via chat interface to an LLM/LangChain agent with tools. Are there alternative ChatGPT clients out there?

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Re: ChatGPT is rendering other people's chat history in the sidebar

#110
post #105

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I'm using it to write technical documentation. I can give it some specs and technical points about my project, then prompt it to write the docs. It gets a lot wrong, so I go back and fix it. But it's easier than starting from a blank page. I was planning on spending about a month writing it all and hiring some help, but I'll be done this week with ChatGPT for $20.

Maybe the technical documentation isn't required with ChatGPT being able to do this? :)

Maybe one day! But for now though it will make things up about my project. My favorite part was asking ChatGPT about my project, and it told me it was a language model and didn't know anything about it. Then I start telling it some things about my project, and all of a sudden it acts like an expert, telling me things it can do that it can't, and arguing with me when I correct it. So it's up to me to set the hallucinations straight and make the docs accurate.

Then maybe one day, when the GPT model is updated, it will read the docs that it had written and I edited, and it will update its model. After that.... maybe the docs won't be necessary!

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