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Mastodon hit 10M users

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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#91

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Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

Do you have a link to the instance(s) that were blacklisted you're referring to?

The blacklist is visible on the about page of each instance. Feel free to go sample a few. The first one I tried had literal swastikas in the user name of the first post. It went downhill from there.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#93

Putting this into context:- Twitter currently has ~400M users, 50% of them DAUs [1] [1] https://backlinko.com/twitter-users I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. ~ Nelson Mandela

Like FB there is most likely millions and millions of bot accounts. When in doubt, go with the 80%/20% rule.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #72

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Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.

Evidenced by the fact that they disagree with the progressive orthodoxy of the moment.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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We're talking about the same toxicity. I do agree there is less shitposting, but there's a fair amount of it nonetheless. Many other of those activist posts are toned down here... because I expect their expectations are they are largely preaching to the choir. But just scrolling through the "toots" (again, at mastodon.social) on the main landing page I get...: " New Yorkers yelling at nazis is fun. Proud Boys bloodie…

You're citing examples from a fairly homogenous set of inputs, one that was largely fed by Twitter refugees. The nature of the Fediverse is that it's as disparate as the web itself; you're starting with a fundamentally incorrect premise by referring to "Mastodon" at all. If you're trying to say "Mastodon" is ideologically any one way or the other, you're hosed from the start. It sounds like our political values proba…

The difference is that web browsers don't block you from visiting websites that your favorite site's owner doesn't want you to see.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#96
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> Zero toxicity ymmv. The mastodon.lol (which was a safe space instance) drama over Hogwarts Legacy [0] was a very good reminder that the platform doesn’t matter, its the people. 0, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34748195

> the platform doesn’t matter, its the people. Neither mattered in that case. It was just a conundrum. Something a lot of people wanted to boycott had a AAA game built for it. I assume you're coming on the side of Nathan, but can't you see why people were going to have a strong reaction about posts about the game surfacing in the feed? It was a wedge issue. I'm not on either side, except I am against those who actual…

The people who want to boycott Harry Potter are as toxic as it gets.

They attacked Pikamee. If you don't know who Pikamee is, that's like stamping on puppies.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#97

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" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules?

> As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ...

> The New Left has become unrecognizable to me

That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc. The same goes for 'who' was progressive.

When people are young, they challenge the corrupt system. As those changes are enacted, those young people grow older and become the system. Then a new generation sees that 'progress' of your youth as the old, corrupt, scelerotic system; they have nothing invested in your achievements; they see the system's flaws and push to change them.

The formerly-young-challengers, now old-system-members, say 'that's crazy, outlandish, outrageous, etc.' - exactly what was said to them when they were young.

Oh yes, I know, 'this time it's different'. 'These kids really are outrageous.' Those words are also exactly the same as before.

If you want to be progressive, you need to keep seeing the flaws, not accepting them, and keep pushing for change. The moment you stop, say 'far enough we've done a good job', you cease being progressive.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#98

I wish they changed the name to something better. Would probably increase adoption greatly if they can come up with a name that doesn’t sound like a porn site specializing in bondage.

The fact that you see the name this way says more about you.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#99
post #36

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You sampled one instance in a fediverse with thousands upon thousands of instances. Do you think none of them have a community more aligned with your worldview?

Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

Isn't that the free market you want? You can build your own client (even by forking!) if you disagree.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#100

Are the undesirable instances included in this? Edit: seems like they aren’t. So probably there are more users and the 10m have been passed long ago

> the undesirable instances Which would that be? Undesirable by whom? Who gets to decide whether an instance is "undesirable"? I'd think that what is undesirable to one is the bee's knees to the other. Who is to be the arbiter of desirability? In a truly distributed system the answer would be 'nobody - everybody'. Are you talking about instances which are blocked in the source code of Mastodon? Blocked in some of the…

If GP meant 2nd and 3rd largest instances, Pawoo and mstdn.jp - those are on the https://instances.social/instances.json that is supposed to be the data source, with 839k/338k users with 70M/65M statuses respectively. Along the mastodon.social with 1M users and 53M statuses, the top 3 account for 2.2M or 1/5th of claimed 10M users...

But something seems off. "users" key on that .json only adds up to 7816421, not 10M. There has to be either a data error, or couple elephants in the room totaling at 2.2M, or the long tail that isn't loading for me.

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