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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by smsm42 »

the_third_wave wrote: post #39
unpopularopp wrote: post #14

Are the undesirable instances included in this? Edit: seems like they aren’t. So probably there are more users and the 10m have been passed long ago

> the undesirable instances Which would that be? Undesirable by whom? Who gets to decide whether an instance is "undesirable"? I'd think that what is undesirable to one is the bee's knees to the other. Who is to be the arbiter of desirability? In a truly distributed system the answer would be 'nobody - everybody'. Are you talking about instances which are blocked in the source code of Mastodon? Blocked in some of the…

> Which would that be?

Probably those sites that "zero toxicity" people declared toxic and mandated to exclude from the fediverse where everyone is welcome. I remember this discussion a while ago and it was one of the main reasons I lost my interest in Mastoson (second being I see no reason to try to fit my thoughts into the format of one yell - I prefer more deliberate discourse) - it felt like they are too much concerned with exclusion rather than inclusion. There are tools to ensure you don't fail to block something that all right thinking people are blocking: https://github.com/Anthchirp/mastodon-defederate

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by irq »

gray_charger wrote: post #50
pohl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sampled one instance in a fediverse with thousands upon thousands of instances. Do you think none of them have a community more aligned with your worldview?

Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse

I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by stevebmark »

This is sad to see. Mastodon is already dead. It's fundamentally impossible for it to catch on with a wider audience. Right now the only platform worse than Twitter is Mastodon. Whatever the Twitter replacement is, we haven't found it yet.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by [deleted] »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #33
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by devn0ll »

kornhole wrote: post #66
sbuttgereit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

If you follow or engage with me, you will probably feel some 'toxicity'. I like to argue with people and see argument as a productive way to enhance understanding. I follow many people with whom I often disagree. You make it what you want. Just don't get bothered by people blocking you from time to time.

I might be off-base, but I feel this is a very American thing to do: argue. In school there a even debate classes yes?

Much better, I think, is to have a truth finding conversation together. Perhaps coming from different sides of the story, but always on the search for trying to find common ground, the truth, science, and an open mind to be changed by those things.

And not see the whole thing as a match to be won you know?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by illiarian »

MisterSandman wrote: post #47
jacooper wrote: post #44

Honestly I really tried to use the fediverse, but its not good enough. Search is hot garbage, can't find anything useful, or what people are actually talking about, not that Twitters search is great by any measure. Missing content when visiting external content, cuz why would anyone ever want to see or search old content. Also most clients I have seen show replies in a really stupid way, you have to actively click to…

Is search really that big of a deal? > Outside of the English speaking indie-privacy-tech bubble (and germans seem to be very active on it too) its a ghost land. "Outside of the super-active communities using Mastodon everyday, it is a ghostland."

> Is search really that big of a deal?

Yes. From finding things to searching archives etc.

Tim Bray has a good post on the topic: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/12/30/Mastodon-... (you can skip to the very last section if you don't want to read it all)

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by berkes »

cogwheels wrote: post #54
codebje wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XMPP (née Jabber) isn't a broadcast messaging platform like Twitter or Mastodon, it's a one-on-one or small group instant messaging protocol. It absolutely failed to take off as a broadly decentralised instant messaging service, for a bunch of reasons, but it absolutely succeeded in becoming a widely used instant messaging protocol, at least for a while. Jabber was born in 1998, in a world where there was a handful o…

WhatsApp is built upon XMPP, and it's by far the most successful deployment of this protocol, with over 2.2 billion users.

Is it still using XMPP, though?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by mise_en_place »

devn0ll wrote: post #75
kornhole wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you follow or engage with me, you will probably feel some 'toxicity'. I like to argue with people and see argument as a productive way to enhance understanding. I follow many people with whom I often disagree. You make it what you want. Just don't get bothered by people blocking you from time to time.

I might be off-base, but I feel this is a very American thing to do: argue. In school there a even debate classes yes? Much better, I think, is to have a truth finding conversation together. Perhaps coming from different sides of the story, but always on the search for trying to find common ground, the truth, science, and an open mind to be changed by those things. And not see the whole thing as a match to be won you…

Are you European? Wasn’t it your whole cultural tradition to argue? Perhaps your modern culture has been corrupted somehow where you can no longer have meaningful debates. The Socratic method is an argument based system.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by _a9 »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #69
haunter wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zero toxicity ymmv. The mastodon.lol (which was a safe space instance) drama over Hogwarts Legacy [0] was a very good reminder that the platform doesn’t matter, its the people. 0, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34748195

which was a safe space instance What does that mean?

safe space = echo chamber
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