American colleges in crisis with enrollment decline largest on record

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 4:23 PM UTC

throw6969away wrote: post #68

hutzlibu wrote: post #58

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It hurts me to read this. Because actually learning is inherently fun, or used to be. Why do kids have fun playing? Because they learn this way. Playing is learning. Or it used to, until the philosophy settled in, that playing is meant for wasting time (and you surely can waste time playing as most modern games are made for time killing) and learning has to be intentionally hard. The most effective way to learn new t…

> The most effective way to learn new things for me, is still to play around with them. Whether it is compilers or a new graphical framework. Compilers and UI APIs are easy to learn. I did it too. Education is the problem of teaching people much harder things. > It hurts me to read this Hey man, look, I was a great student and graduated from a good college with a 4.0 GPA with a math and CS degree, and now I've made a…

Post by readthenotes1 » Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 4:50 PM UTC

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #90

bbbbzzz1 wrote: post #21

The admin bloat ought to be cut in order to qualify for federal student loans. I'm always baffled how much tuition was at my public university, yet teacher and TA salaries are so low. It's like everything except academics attached itself to drain money from students

If the top executives of the university aren't making 10s of millions of dollars, then it can't be a very good university. We should pay them more, much more, as its the only way to improve post-secondary education. There should only be a single tenured faculty position and every one else is an adjunct or post-doc who gets paid $500 to teach a course. These adjuncts and post-docs have to work very hard for decades fo…

Post by tauwauwau » Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 5:41 PM UTC

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #22

tauwauwau wrote: post #13

I remember from some video on youtube that colleges in US used to be cheaper because government gave a lot of money to subsidise education. It stopped when government figured out that it was essentially paying to create citizens with progressive ideas and critical thought. There may be a lot of things wrong with colleges but they are essential and should be saved.

>” It stopped when government figured out that it was essentially paying to create citizens with progressive ideas and critical thought.” I have no idea what that video is basing this on. The government continues to substantially subsidize college education through guaranteed loans, Pell grants, tax breaks, and research grants. And, colleges/universities had a reputation for “progressive ideas” since the 1960’s and i…

Post by jraby3 » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 2:10 PM UTC

breakyerself wrote: post #70

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Absolutely not true. Try being a proponent of israel at Berkeley. No healthy debate is possible.

I imagine it's eerily similar to being a proponent of Apartheid south Africa at Berkeley in 1982.

Post by dannyw » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:30 PM UTC

diggernet wrote: post #98

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Those who have work experience usually skip degree requirements.

In some companies. Then there are others... I know someone who has been acting as her boss's replacement since her boss left the company. But the company refuses to promote her into that job because she doesn't have a degree. 20 years of employment with the company, plus demonstrated ability by actively doing the boss's job, doesn't count as much as an old piece of paper. To emphasize: This company has a degree requi…