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Real drug war has never been tried!
I appreciate the humor! I'd also argue that Singapore does "war on drugs" pretty well.
Yeah good luck importing Singapore style culture to the US.
Cocaine production reaches record levels as new trafficking hubs emerge
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Having lived in Asia (low drug problems) and Latin America (drug-dominated hellhole) I much prefer the way drugs (and dealers) are dealt with in Asia than in Latam. The idea that waging war on drugs is a bad one sounds like a nut idea from out-of-touch people who have never been to a narco-state like Brazil, Mexico, or Colombia.
As a Colombian, you have no idea of what you are writing about.
What exactly is that that you take exception with? Classifying Colombia as a narco-state? Just because the cartels were (mostly) destroyed it doesn't mean narcotraficantes don't have incredible influence on the Colombian state. The Gulf Clan is a very powerful organization.
Y no, no soy colombiano pero mi familia si lo es. Soy de otro narco-state.
Re: Cocaine production reaches record levels as new trafficking hubs emerge
#64Everyone I know who recreationally does cocaine is scared to continue because of the risk of fentanyl contamination.
It looks like test strips for fentanyl are legal in 30 states. In the remaining 20 they are generally treated as drug paraphernalia. A number of states only allow fentanyl test strips, all other testing materials are drug paraphernalia.
All data as of August 2022.
[pdf] https://www.networkforphl.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Leg...
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Are there confirmed cases of this happening?
I just looked it up and found this DEA report published in 2018 - https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-07/BUL-039-18.p... > Forensic chemists discovered fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances including acetyl fentanyl, carfentanil, Furanylfentanyl, and p- fluoroisobutyryl fentanyl in over 180 cocaine exhibits.
That's really scary. It's been a long time since any of my friends did coke, not sure would have put them off, maybe it would.
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Living in Seattle and seeing the fentanyl crisis first hand, I disagree with you that addicts aren’t victims. Not to mention the citizens who are victimized by the crime needed to sustain that addiction. Legalization of marijuana has gone fine, but there are drugs so powerful that adults lose all control and reason, and I can’t see ever legalizing something like that.
> but there are drugs so powerful that adults lose all control and reason, You mean like alcohol?
Alcohol is the only drug I can't put down when I want to. I'll take a line of coke and never a glass of wine.
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What would the short-term benefit of this be for the government?
Reducing consumption of drugs in general due to mass spreading of fear of instant death from laced coke could be one. Also there's money in selling Fentanyl.
Reducing consumption of drugs
Why would a government nefarious enough to poison citizens care about this?
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The concept is fundamentally flawed. Curtailing rights and imprisoning people for victmimless crimes is incompatible with anything approaching a free society. There are many approaches to dealing with the problems inherent with drugs, we just keep using the wrong over and over and at an extraordinary cost, in money, liberty and ruined lives.
Living in Seattle and seeing the fentanyl crisis first hand, I disagree with you that addicts aren’t victims. Not to mention the citizens who are victimized by the crime needed to sustain that addiction. Legalization of marijuana has gone fine, but there are drugs so powerful that adults lose all control and reason, and I can’t see ever legalizing something like that.
No one wants to use fent , it's the product of the war on drugs
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#70Everyone I know who recreationally does cocaine is scared to continue because of the risk of fentanyl contamination.
Aren’t there testing kits available that you could use?
Insulfated cocaine has a unique problem in that it first needs to be diluted in water in order to properly test, then somehow dried back out into powder before it can be used.
It’s fairly cumbersome and removes a lot of the appeal of the drug. Most casual cocaine users want the experience to be just that, casual. Having to buy a bag of blow then go home and run a chemistry experiment on it is a much different vibe than taking quick bump from some nice new friend you made at the bar.
Most people I know who are casual users have just decided to stop instead of going through the hassle.