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No one's fired, no one's disciplined in the example they gave. Seems a hell of a lot better than private sector corporations.

> Georgia Tech has 41 DEI personnel but only 13 history professors.

??? So tell me how many total professors there are, and what the specific job duties of these DEI people are? I don't expect many history professors at a school with "Tech" in its name.

> DEI officials have a vested interest in ensuring that the grievances of identity politics continue lest the offices have no reason to exist.

There is a tendency to monoculture that frequently exceeds the tendency to diversity. This alone is enough to require a diversity initiative to counteract.

For students alone, differences in backgrounds result in differences of opportunities, and ability to pursue opportunities, while in the university. Students can benefit from targeted equity initiatives, and if they are good initiatives this will show up in graduation statistics.

For similar reasons inclusion means different kinds of outreach and opportunities, if every student is going to have a shot at a good college experience and graduation.

(These statements apply equally to the highly intelligent [e.g. Miraca Gross' Exceptionally Gifted Children which includes anecdotes of people with IQs above 160 who dropped out of college, or even high school], and the averagely intelligent students.)

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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One thing that scares the hell out of me is the power structure. In Boulder Colorado, at the university of Colorado there was a horrific incident where a female student allegedly shared childhood sexual abuse material of a male student with another student via airdrop.

That other student reported it - to the universities DEI organization. They of course got the police involved - but it tells you where students think power and authority lies.

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No one's fired, no one's disciplined in the example they gave. Seems a hell of a lot better than private sector corporations. > Georgia Tech has 41 DEI personnel but only 13 history professors. ??? So tell me how many total professors there are, and what the specific job duties of these DEI people are? I don't expect many history professors at a school with "Tech" in its name. > DEI officials have a vested interest i…

Is there any evidence that the more DEI officials you have, the more diverse, equitable and inclusive the environment becomes?

It seems far from self evident to me, and my anecdotal experience is that it achieves the exact opposite on all fronts.

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One thing that scares the hell out of me is the power structure. In Boulder Colorado, at the university of Colorado there was a horrific incident where a female student allegedly shared childhood sexual abuse material of a male student with another student via airdrop. That other student reported it - to the universities DEI organization. They of course got the police involved - but it tells you where students think…

You're meant to be scared and upset. That's the point of these stories.

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One thing that scares the hell out of me is the power structure. In Boulder Colorado, at the university of Colorado there was a horrific incident where a female student allegedly shared childhood sexual abuse material of a male student with another student via airdrop. That other student reported it - to the universities DEI organization. They of course got the police involved - but it tells you where students think…

> but it tells you where students think power and authority lies.

Perhaps, or perhaps the other student just didn't know who to contact, so contacted whoever they recalled from the various trainings being a confidential source or mandatory reporter or whatever. Of perhaps the student knew someone in DEI and felt more comfortable reporting it to that person.

Universities have for centuries now had separate reporting structures than to local police. I think this is the bigger problem. If something illegal happens students should be reporting it to the police (and not campus police).

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