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Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by carlosjobim »

prmoustache wrote: post #14

The main issue here is how we pretend to recycle batteries and electronic components while what we really do is dumping them to African countries such as Ivory Coast, Ghana which are the very same countries that produce the highest amount of Cacao. Stop buying new electronic stuff / computer / gadgets / appliances every other years guys. This whole scheme of growth and making and buying new things while we still have…

A lot of us are buying this stuff because we never had it.

Most people buy new telephones not because they want fancy gadgets, but because either A: The battery has deteriorated too much or B: Crucial apps demands the phone to be updated. Uber is for example awful in this regard.

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

dTal wrote: post #28
LightBug1 wrote: post #22

Homer Simpson suggestion: what if we put massive magnets in the production process?

That is in fact quite common in food production, but all it accomplishes is removing metal filings from processing machinery. It can't remove molecular metal contamination from the food itself. Also, lead isn't ferrous.

It's also related to food industries using blue sticking plasters: they are made so that they will set off the same metal detectors that are looking for bits of broken machinery.

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by throwthrowuknow »

kzrdude wrote: post #25
hannob wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a matter of concentration. 80% of 100g is more than 40% of 100g. It's that simple.

How do we know that? I'd ask both us and NYT to be scientific about it. Cargo culting science: "We tested dark chocolate and it was bad" => avoid dark chocolate and no further conclusions. (Media is full of this pattern.) More rational investigation: "We tested dark chocolate and it was bad" => Find the problematic ingredient => What are the other places we use this ingredient?

Read the article

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by hexo »

greymalik wrote: post #29
refactor_master wrote: post #8

It’s interesting how these things can be “healthy” and “unsafe” at the same time. Or maybe it’s because some of these health effects are often quite far-fetched (“may improve X”, “contains compounds which has, in other contexts, been known to be important for Y” whereas e.g. lead is very strongly correlated with negative effects. Makes me wonder on an “absolute scale” what we’re really talking about here: “-100 for h…

The dose makes the poison.

NO! With lead, there is no safe amount.

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by hexo »

throwthrowuknow wrote: post #43
kzrdude wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we know that? I'd ask both us and NYT to be scientific about it. Cargo culting science: "We tested dark chocolate and it was bad" => avoid dark chocolate and no further conclusions. (Media is full of this pattern.) More rational investigation: "We tested dark chocolate and it was bad" => Find the problematic ingredient => What are the other places we use this ingredient?

Read the article

Article is painful to read thanks to sentences like "0.8 micrograms in ounce". Ouch.

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by andromaton »

dTal wrote: post #28
LightBug1 wrote: post #22

Homer Simpson suggestion: what if we put massive magnets in the production process?

That is in fact quite common in food production, but all it accomplishes is removing metal filings from processing machinery. It can't remove molecular metal contamination from the food itself. Also, lead isn't ferrous.

Or ferromagnetic

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by [deleted] »

dTal wrote: post #28
LightBug1 wrote: post #22

Homer Simpson suggestion: what if we put massive magnets in the production process?

That is in fact quite common in food production, but all it accomplishes is removing metal filings from processing machinery. It can't remove molecular metal contamination from the food itself. Also, lead isn't ferrous.

[deleted]

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by bryanlarsen »

prmoustache wrote: post #14

The main issue here is how we pretend to recycle batteries and electronic components while what we really do is dumping them to African countries such as Ivory Coast, Ghana which are the very same countries that produce the highest amount of Cacao. Stop buying new electronic stuff / computer / gadgets / appliances every other years guys. This whole scheme of growth and making and buying new things while we still have…

Pretend? The recycling rate for vehicle lead acid batteries is over 99% in the US.

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by paulryanrogers »

carlosjobim wrote: post #41
prmoustache wrote: post #14

The main issue here is how we pretend to recycle batteries and electronic components while what we really do is dumping them to African countries such as Ivory Coast, Ghana which are the very same countries that produce the highest amount of Cacao. Stop buying new electronic stuff / computer / gadgets / appliances every other years guys. This whole scheme of growth and making and buying new things while we still have…

A lot of us are buying this stuff because we never had it. Most people buy new telephones not because they want fancy gadgets, but because either A: The battery has deteriorated too much or B: Crucial apps demands the phone to be updated. Uber is for example awful in this regard.

Legislate user replaceable batteries

Re: Do I need to avoid dark chocolate now?

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Post by SyzygistSix »

sschueller wrote: post #10
sneak wrote: post #6

Disappointing that the NYT didn't actually buy some bars and have them tested, and report real numbers from the wild. The quality of reporting on non-headline stuff in the NYT seems to be falling as of late. This article doesn't really tell me anything.

Here are the tests consumer reports did a while back: https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-...

So the solution is to buy quality chocolate made from good beans grown in Central and South America, without child and slave labor. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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