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And who is going to pay those artists? Entertainment professions usually serve those who have money to spend.
An automation tax can replace the income tax to fund social needs.
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Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tech companies?
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Look .. I am one of the working class here. But I gotta point out. Our standard of living is far superior to someone living in 1970 when it comes to stuff/technology. The stuff is cheaper because of China/globalization. The tech is there because we outsourced production and kept specializing the work force. I don't think UBI is the solution. Nor is squeezing people more than they are being squeezed. Efficiency and pr…
> I think schools would benefit from privatization Well, we (in the US), have slowly been privatizing them and it’s bad! If you look at test results though, it’s great! Because private charter schools can drop underperforming students before the end of the term and artificially inflate their numbers. There are many more reasons that education with a profit motive isn’t better than without. I suggest maybe reading up…
I went to private school and this is very true. If you are going to privatize schools well then private schools need to keep students with iep regardless of cost, like public schools , or they should get no funding whatsoever from taxpayers.
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#513Earlier quoted context omitted.
And weaving machines have not fully trickled down to citizens. You can not easily buy a weaving machine (there are some second hand ones) or easily go to your local maker space and use the weaving machine to create the design you desire. Open source in the space of textile making is in its infancy even though there are some projects. I bet it is easier to get a low volume tape-out of some custom chips than it is to g…
A basic loom isn't hard to make, any semi-competent carpenter could make one. That's what people did before weaving machines. I've seen people use them to make rugs and things for sale in gift shops. There's nothing stopping you from doing this.
That medieval era technology can still be manufactured at an individual scale was not my point.
My point was that access to the technological advancement has not trickled down and that this creates an imbalance of power.
Compare how easy it is to get a custom textile (not a custom print) made to how easy it is to get a custom PCB made (it is reasonably easy to etch a double sided board and multi-layer and flexible ones can easily be ordered online). The situation with regards to knitting is somewhat better.
Saying that a "a basic loom isn't hard to make" in a world of high speed air jet digital looms is equivalent to saying that perf-board still exists in a world of SMD components.
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> but you could take lots of retail or clerical jobs, advance through hard work and support a family on those wages. Those are the days that are super gone Only in certain places, and only mostly due to crazy policies that made housing ridiculously unaffordable. I'm in an area where my barber lives on 10 acres of land he didn't inherit and together with his wife raises two children. This type of relaxed life is possi…
The idea that an average working person could buy a house in their twenties was only possible: 1) in America, and 2) for the baby boomers generation, maybe for some of Gen X. Nowhere else, never after. This is the exception of exceptions, not a norm.
Millennials could buy houses in their 20s for sure. The early 2010s were some of the cheapest housing prices relative to wages ever.
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The problem is not that automation will eliminate our jobs. The problem is that we have created an economy where that is a bad thing.
I don't think it's the economy, it's the policy. Automating a shit-ton of jobs is great for the economy. The economy is just fine if 90% of people are starving because big corps are saving shit-tons of money. The government of a wealthy country should ensure that its citizens are able to eat, and have a sheltered place to sleep, without them needing to work. Because the way things are going, there won't be enough wor…
If there is a housing shortage and a jobs shortage then shouldn't people just be building houses? Why should the government be involved and just giving people money? The problem is too much government involvement already. Look at areas where there are shortages and problems with very little advancements being made. Those are the most heavily regulated industries, a system that allows for the most corruption, entrenchment and commingling of power and wealth.
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It's not about our "standard of living", it's more about class mobilization. If you were born poor, you could still get a job at McDonalds, go to college on those wages, and buy a home/start a family and live middle class easily, if not upper-middle class if you chose a high-earnings potential career. Today, that's close to impossible unless you take student loans, go through the gauntlet of getting a higher paying j…
That's way off. The US spends 12% on the military.[0] [0] https://www.thebalancemoney.com/u-s-federal-budget-breakdown...
Sorry about that, I meant to write "discretionary" in there. Regardless, the point of spending less on the military still stands.
We can't change mandatory spending or we have millions of elderly people dying because social security vanishes into thin air.
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#517Wow - this is just wild. I've seen lots of arguments around "AI won't take everyone's job, it will just open up new areas for new jobs." Even if you take that with the benefit of the doubt (which I don't really think is warranted): 1. You don't need to take everyone's job. You just need to take a shitload of people's jobs. I think a lot of our current sociological problems, problems associated with wealth inequality,…
> I mean, does anyone think that things like human translators, medical transcriptionists, court reporters, etc.
Bad examples. Those are instances where you need human beings to provide interpretation of the context surrounding the translation/transcription, and where strict regulatory regimes are in place. Those are likely the last to be automated.
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Imagine the devastation wrought by automatic looms, that put all the weavers out of a job! 97% of jobs used to be working on the farm. Now it's something like 2%.
This hoary take irks me. There were still places for human endeavour to go when the looms were automated. That is no longer the case. Think of it instead as cognitive habitat. Sure, there has been habitat loss in the past, but those losses have been offset by habitat gains elsewhere. This time, I don't see anywhere for habitat gains to come, and I see a massive, enormous, looming (ha!) cognitive habitat loss. -- EDIT…
Competition still has potential for infinite growth. Even if ai is better than humans at everything, humans will be finite and will likely be better at making people with money feel important. Potentially the future economy is everyone just competing to make the wealthy feel important whether fighting their wars, worshiping at their cults, or working at their “startups”
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" ...I pay my barber $50 for a 15 minute haircut... " Bet you can get the same for less than $20 within 3 miles (and possibly far less). I paid $10 for my last haircut ($6 two months ago - thank you, Joe Biden). Luckily there's another shop nearby that still charges $5.
Probably, but my barber is awesome . Older now, but he was once very prolific and well known in the music & arts scene. He’s an excellent story teller, and an overall entertaining person to interact with. I’m not just paying for a haircut, it’s an experience that’s worth every penny.
My "experience": Just went to the $5/haircut place and killed five mosquitoes while waiting. Greedy suckers were full of blood!8-((
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Now 90% of humanity can toil for 12 hours a day in the fields to support the 10% who own all the machines. Super awesome!
When 90% of people are toiling in fields, there won’t be as many complaints I’d think because there would be a lot more equality among the 90%, vs the 50/50 split that we have today.
As other comment said, you're describing feudalism. So why are you making this sound like it's desireable?