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The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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I work for a pretty large financial corporation. They sent out the IT roadmap for the next year and in it was casually mentioned that they expect Macs to be the dominant platform in the next five years. Our current mac usage is <15% and as a result support is an afterthought with a very frustrating experience. For them to say that and push for this change in an industry that very strongly favours Windows is the clear…

macOS now has 30% market share in the US. Surprised me. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...

And this includes company computers. Imagine if commercial "seats" were factored out, in order to show how actual people are voting with their wallets.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Marking unrecognized words, suggesting spellings, and auto correct are 3 different features if you want to split hairs. The distinction is not relevant to the claim a layout aware suggestion could not be produced locally.

I didn't say it could not be produced locally. I was just providing "an actual example of what these "enhanced" spell-checkers provide over basic ones that run locally." I'm merely speaking to what is, not what could be.

I didn't say you made the claim. It's funny how words we choose can imply things.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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From 2020, "Web Browser Privacy: What Do Browsers Say When They Phone Home?" https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf > We find that the browsers split into three distinct groups from this privacy perspective. In the first (most private) group lies Brave, in the second Chrome, Firefox and Safari and in the third (least private) group lie Edge and Yandex.

A more up to date site about browser privacy is https://privacytests.org/

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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"Hey Telescreen, reorder trash bags and look up recipes for risotto." Huxley's extrapolations were much more on-target than Orwell's. He realized people would line up to buy things that Orwell assumed would have to be imposed at gunpoint.

From ChatGPT using the prompt of a description of someone ordering household items from a voice assistant in the style of 1984: As the clock struck 10 in the morning, Winston Smith approached the telescreen in his small apartment, where his voice assistant, known as "Big Alexa," awaited his commands. "Order household items," Winston spoke into the device, his voice barely above a whisper. "Confirmed," the cold, metal…

Pretty amazing. "But it's just a dumb Markov model," they said. "Pay no attention to the guy in the Chinese Room who suddenly seems to understand what's actually being said."

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Did you know that out-of-the-box, Edge will transmit the content of your text boxes on web pages to the Microsoft Editor service for the purpose of grammatical suggestions? I have no idea how this concept got past legal but hey, it’s on by default now. Holy shit. :( At what point are some of the major government legal departments actually going to step up and sort this shit out? It is so , so, so, so, so far past ove…

Chrome does the same thing for textboxes if you use enhanced spell checking. >Enhanced spell check Uses the same spell checker that’s used in Google search. Text you type in the browser is sent to Google.

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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Did you know that out-of-the-box, Edge will transmit the content of your text boxes on web pages to the Microsoft Editor service for the purpose of grammatical suggestions? I have no idea how this concept got past legal but hey, it’s on by default now. Holy shit. :( At what point are some of the major government legal departments actually going to step up and sort this shit out? It is so , so, so, so, so far past ove…

Chrome does the same thing for textboxes if you use enhanced spell checking. >Enhanced spell check Uses the same spell checker that’s used in Google search. Text you type in the browser is sent to Google.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whi...

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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> … "definitely heading towards setting up a test computer with Linux to see how much I can get to work." I've personally been on Linux since my Windows XP / Windows 7 days (used to dual-boot before gaming on Linux got hella easier). I learned that the secret to successfully sticking with Linux as a "daily driver" is to stay fully aware that it's not Windows, and trying to forcefully shoe-horn it into Windows-like ha…

Thanks for the advice, I've used Linux on my own computer for twenty years. What I don't know is if I can get legacy LabVIEW code, hundred thousand dollar equipment with drivers designed for windows XP, and obnoxious stuff like microscope camera drivers and software to work. No games thankfully (or not, I suppose, games on Linux work fine for me).

Virtualize it and pass through USB devices to the VM for the microscope camera/etc.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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The difference is that Apple, at least until Catalina/Big Sur/Ventura, had good taste . They force you into their workflows or design conventions, but they were generally good or at least bearable. Whatever good taste Microsoft had, it evaporated shortly after the release of Windows 7.

OS X is slowly backsliding, too. It's not as bad as showing literal advertisements in the OS, but they're also trying to unify their mobile and laptop/desktop experiences, and it results in a worse experience on my laptop. I think I'm about two OSX upgrades away from switching to a *nix OS as my daily driver, though I don't know what I'll do for some niche software like Clip Studio Paint.

> ...though I don't know what I'll do for some niche software like Clip Studio Paint.

https://krita.org/en/ is probably the closest one, it's open source and doesn't cost you a penny

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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I’m a longtime Windows fan, and initially I was quite enamored by Edge as well. Base UX is excellent, lots of settings and they’re easy to find. Vertical tab bar, profiles, and it all Just Works. I flat out love its “turn this website into a desktop app” feature. But by now they've shoved their core consumer products so chock full of crap that even I am starting to look for a way out. I got my son a new laptop recent…

Totally agree. And what baffles me even more is that most corporate IT is fine with that. Invest millions on cybersecurity and data protection, but never mind the spyware bloat.
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