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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by LoganDark »

crimsontech wrote: post #49
LoganDark wrote: post #7

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That does not disable widgets. That only hides the button that toggles it. (Edit 29 minutes after, because I can't seem to post anymore:) It still runs its webview in the background and can be toggled with the keyboard shortcut, Win+W, even if the button is hidden. In order to fully disable it you need a Group Policy or a registry hack.

As a mac user it’s super frustrating because this is the shortcut to close a window so I see this widget flyout constantly. I need to figure out a way to remap it but not having admin on my corporate machine I have little hope.

As another macOS user, it's absolutely insane how much worse Windows has been allowed to get over the years, and I sincerely wish that my mid-2015 MBP had never broken, because this is still absolutely awful even after almost 2 years of getting re-acquainted with an OS that I had already used for 7 years before my first Mac.

macOS was just too good.

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Post by sph »

pseudalopex wrote: post #155
sph wrote: post #67

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There is no reference to GNOME calculator in that page. Given the extraordinary claim, please link better proof. I cannot imagine GNOME calc phoning home, unless you crashes and you have manually enabled debugging telemetry post-installation.

The claim was not extraordinary. Many calculator apps have currency conversion.

Fetching currency data is not phoning home. And how is currency conversion supposed to work without contacting an external service?

Let's not dilute the original meaning. Phoning home means sending telemetry and other usage data to its creator and associated third parties, and this data exchange is not at all necessary for the program to do its job.

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Post by unxdfa »

specialist wrote: post #258
unxdfa wrote: post #128

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Yep. I’m in the middle of switching from macOS back to windows because I need to do things I can’t do on macOS. I’ve had to build out a locked down windows 10 LTSC build to get anywhere near a sensible outcome for me. I think we should start a revolt in the IT sector against this shit really. I’d start one but I don’t know where to begin.

Any chance ReactOS (the FOSS clone of Windows) can fill in? Or maybe use VirtualBox or VMware?

I would really love ReactOS to replace windows. Genuinely would. But it's not there yet. I've tracked their development for years.

As for VirtualBox and VMware, that means I have two operating systems instead of one :(

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by unxdfa »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #259
concinds wrote: post #250

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macOS now has 30% market share in the US. Surprised me. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...

Wow, I had no idea. Never mind Nadella, why does Microsoft's board of directors tolerate this?!

Windows doesn't matter to Microsoft now. The big sellers are Azure and Office 365 and they work on Macs.

As for market share in the US, I very much doubt it's that high really. There are huge unimaginable swathes of windows boxes which won't show up in GlobalStats at all. I know a company with 50,000 desktops that can only visit a web site on an internal network for example. Those sorts of installations are everywhere.

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Post by unxdfa »

8ytecoder wrote: post #231
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #219

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Start here: > because I need to do things I can’t do on macOS. IT departments in huge corporations have purchasing requirements specs. Require any software that you pay money for to run on at least one non-Microsoft operating system. As a second source requirement. If more than a trivial number of large corporations do this, developers make sure their software runs on other systems, which is what allows users to swit…

I work for a pretty large financial corporation. They sent out the IT roadmap for the next year and in it was casually mentioned that they expect Macs to be the dominant platform in the next five years. Our current mac usage is <15% and as a result support is an afterthought with a very frustrating experience. For them to say that and push for this change in an industry that very strongly favours Windows is the clear…

Fintech here. Also large. We have no Macs. We will probably never have any. We have a lot of software which will most likely never work on them. None of our clients have them as well.

Also another company we are related to tried a roll out and found they couldn't get Apple to deliver anything other than crap off the shelf configs in any quantity. Dell could. So the trial was ended.

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Post by unxdfa »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #219
unxdfa wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I’m in the middle of switching from macOS back to windows because I need to do things I can’t do on macOS. I’ve had to build out a locked down windows 10 LTSC build to get anywhere near a sensible outcome for me. I think we should start a revolt in the IT sector against this shit really. I’d start one but I don’t know where to begin.

Start here: > because I need to do things I can’t do on macOS. IT departments in huge corporations have purchasing requirements specs. Require any software that you pay money for to run on at least one non-Microsoft operating system. As a second source requirement. If more than a trivial number of large corporations do this, developers make sure their software runs on other systems, which is what allows users to swit…

No one does this or cares. They care about delivery and keeping ROI high and costs down, not demanding platforms.

I wouldn't draw any assumption that higher quality software is portable. I've seen monocultural genius (Keysight Genesys) and cross platform garbage (libreoffice) for example.

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Post by justsomehnguy »

concinds wrote: post #250
8ytecoder wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for a pretty large financial corporation. They sent out the IT roadmap for the next year and in it was casually mentioned that they expect Macs to be the dominant platform in the next five years. Our current mac usage is <15% and as a result support is an afterthought with a very frustrating experience. For them to say that and push for this change in an industry that very strongly favours Windows is the clear…

macOS now has 30% market share in the US. Surprised me. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...

macOS now has 30% market share in the US Internet

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Post by mistrial9 »

neltnerb wrote: post #156
godsfshrmn wrote: post #114

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Yeahhhh this crap is on every computer in the hospital I'm at (minus the ones on XP of course)

I noticed that nice new bing AI enabled search bar at the bottom will generously help you provide PII to openai now... It's amazing that this stuff gets added without thought of consequence.

almost like a coincidence

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Post by schemescape »

edandersen wrote: post #103

Wait until this chap sees the Crypto Wallet actually being added to Edge. https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/16367594878299176...

Is there an official source for this?

Edit: I'm extremely skeptical of this claim. The capitalization of "Web3" isn't consistent, most of the text reads like it hasn't been reviewed/edited. Seems fake to me.

Edit again: there are several more screenshots, many of which contain glaring typos. This is almost certainly fake.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by graycat »

graycat wrote: post #243

There is a LOT of discussion here about the Microsoft Web browser Edge and Windows 10/11. I have some questions. Background: At present I'm a heavy user of Windows 10 Home Edition, Firefox, KEdit, Rexx, etc. From a move, I have a Windows 7 Professional system in a box and am eager to get it running. That system has the 100,000 lines of code for my Web site I'm eager to get on-line. I'm considering plugging together a…

What is a widget? Google search

software widget

has some good descriptions, examples. I was surprised that Google had such a good description of widgets.

It turns out that I am not a heavy user of widgets and would not much like them.

Okay, that answers my question about widgets.

Anyone have any information on the questions about Windows Server?

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