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The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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That’s because it is. There’s Consumer Microsoft and Enterprise Microsoft. Enterprise Microsoft products are mostly really great. Anything that’s tied to the consumer side can’t make its returns on fat B2B contracts, so they are forced to extract value otherwise.

Teams?

Is heavy but mostly very good?

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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It blows my mind how non-consensual the Windows experience has become. I wouldn't let someone with a similar understanding of consent anywhere near my drink. You are right about one thing: I refuse to purchase a Windows computer, and have been refusing for a decade.

> You are right about one thing: I refuse to purchase a Windows computer, and have been refusing for a decade. I still use Windows on my personal machine due to gaming still not being comparably good on Linux across all of the titles I want to play - sometimes native releases aren't available, other times even Proton has issues running stuff on Steam. Apart from that, there is actually very little holding me back, si…

GPU passthrough has been a game changer for me. I stream all my games from a computer in a closet running Proxmox. Windows is still there in the background, but I almost never have to interact with it

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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> … "definitely heading towards setting up a test computer with Linux to see how much I can get to work." I've personally been on Linux since my Windows XP / Windows 7 days (used to dual-boot before gaming on Linux got hella easier). I learned that the secret to successfully sticking with Linux as a "daily driver" is to stay fully aware that it's not Windows, and trying to forcefully shoe-horn it into Windows-like ha…

Thanks for the advice, I've used Linux on my own computer for twenty years. What I don't know is if I can get legacy LabVIEW code, hundred thousand dollar equipment with drivers designed for windows XP, and obnoxious stuff like microscope camera drivers and software to work. No games thankfully (or not, I suppose, games on Linux work fine for me).

That is a special situation, and isn't going to be straightforward -- just like it wouldn't be straightforward to move to Windows 11.

Certainly worth testing, but the general advice above isn't going to help with the special software for the instruments.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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I’m a longtime Windows fan, and initially I was quite enamored by Edge as well. Base UX is excellent, lots of settings and they’re easy to find. Vertical tab bar, profiles, and it all Just Works. I flat out love its “turn this website into a desktop app” feature. But by now they've shoved their core consumer products so chock full of crap that even I am starting to look for a way out. I got my son a new laptop recent…

Just recently, my partner's PC had to be wiped because BitLocker was surprise enabled by Windows 11, and I hadn't set her PC up with an online Microsoft login, so we couldn't get the BitLocker key that we never knew we needed. So your data is now hostage to Microsoft, and if you didn't read the full manual when setting up your partner's new Windows PC, you now lost her data. Writing about it, it feels like ransomware…

Doesn't windows make you sign in to an account during the install?

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Yeahhhh this crap is on every computer in the hospital I'm at (minus the ones on XP of course)

I would assume there's a group policy to disable it

Almost all of it was already disabled on my work computer (...months since I booted Windows...), and most of settings were completely disabled due to group policy.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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macOS now has 30% market share in the US. Surprised me. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...

Wow, I had no idea. Never mind Nadella, why does Microsoft's board of directors tolerate this?!

They've build up enough political capital to expend it, upset their customers, and normalize all these dark patterns. They're taking the risk that 5 years later everyone will consider these things common and not be bothered by them. Apple did the same thing by making an attractive ecosystem. Windows is using its dominance as a platform to make the same exchange.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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That's not even all of them... Edge routinely takes over file association of pdf files, even if you have Adobe Acrobat installed. At work, we had to apply a whole slew of GPO and logon scripts to force Windows into using Acrobat.

However bad Edge is, Adobe Acrobat Reader is worse. I understand it is a necessary evil for some of the forms stuff, digital signatures, and the full edition for editing.

Now you can have both!

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2023/02/08/adobe-acrobat...

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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I’m a longtime Windows fan, and initially I was quite enamored by Edge as well. Base UX is excellent, lots of settings and they’re easy to find. Vertical tab bar, profiles, and it all Just Works. I flat out love its “turn this website into a desktop app” feature. But by now they've shoved their core consumer products so chock full of crap that even I am starting to look for a way out. I got my son a new laptop recent…

Give Linux a try. Even if you did before and hated it. Flatpaks and Proton are really coming into their own. And not in a "year-of-Linux-desktop" way where it's perpetually "almost ready" for 5 years. So many of my teething problems moving away from Windows have been buttoned up and solved since originally using mainlining Linux 10-15 years ago. I'm a Gnome weirdo though, Gnome 3/4 are easily my favorite complete des…

Second this, Kubuntu is an excellent OS that on the whole just works.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Just add two OS'es to UEFI BIOS. Bootloaders easily break.

Windows doesn't support multiple EFI System Partitions on one system¹, and it will nuke the default EFI boot image (bootx64.efi) on the ESP it uses whenever it updates or does startup repair. So if you do this make sure you have configured the Linux system to write EFI variables and know that if you ever clear them, you may lose the ability to boot Linux until you perform a repair. Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, es…

Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, especially if you're new to Linux.

I’m gonna give it a go. I first installed Linux from a shareware CD I purchased from my local Micro Center in 1996.

Still remember Slackware fondly! And qmail - great email program.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Do you happen to know how to disable the page of clickbait I get every time I open a new tab in Edge? I tried setting my "Home" to Google, but that doesn't seem to do it.

Agree this is a bigger problem for me. Its usually temping clickbait and I end up clicking some of the links and getting distracted.

This seems like a good time to trot out Microsoft’s mission statement:

> Our mission is to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more.

It’s disappointing to see them working against their own mission like this…

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