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Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

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Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#21
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. The Curebits designer was obviously inspired by the Highrise design, but didn't copy it pixel-by-pixel. If it helps Curebits convert more customers then more power to them--it's not like they're stealing Highrise customers. Linking to someone else's assets, however, is just wrong.

"but it didn't copy it pixel-by-pixel" They used their image assets. How much more pixel-by-pixel can you get?

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#22
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. The Curebits designer was obviously inspired by the Highrise design, but didn't copy it pixel-by-pixel. If it helps Curebits convert more customers then more power to them--it's not like they're stealing Highrise customers. Linking to someone else's assets, however, is just wrong.

"Inspired"? Sorry, but are you trolling? It's about as close to an exact copy as you can get.

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#23
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

you can make the smallest viable product even smaller when you pinch designs and externalise the costs of your asset hosting!

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. The Curebits designer was obviously inspired by the Highrise design, but didn't copy it pixel-by-pixel. If it helps Curebits convert more customers then more power to them--it's not like they're stealing Highrise customers. Linking to someone else's assets, however, is just wrong.

"Inspired"? Sorry, but are you trolling? It's about as close to an exact copy as you can get.

Probably, he meant that the happy smiling guy was replaced by another.

They could have gone with a headset hottie instead (http://www.headsethotties.com/).

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#25
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move..

We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run.

Clearly it was stupid. It was not meant to offend anyone and we are adding credit where due. (We'll take it down if DHH insists!)

Our new designer will take a crack at more than our homepage... we need all our UI "designed".. not redesigned, but designed - because we're primarily backend guys. Yes, this landing page variation was heavily inspired (read: blatantly ripped off) from Highrise -- because these are the peeps we aspire to, and they've done a lot of testing to figure out what works: http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2991-behind-the-scenes-ab-tes...

We're running a "ghetto test" - this homepage variant does not even share a common CSS file with the rest of the code base. It's been live less than a week.

The idea was to just see how the conversion characteristics were before investing a lot of time into making a "real design" out of the lessons (prominent testimonial, light copy focused on value props). Hence the hot linking, inline styles, etc. It is personally my fault for not including a credit to Highrise for the design.. that credit is well deserved and will be added shortly - a big oversight on my part.. we launch some stuff fast (other things deliberately), and this was one of those fast things.

Lesson to us: add credits, and be more explicit what we're testing... ask permission instead of asking for forgiveness. In the meantime, please forgive us? :)

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move.. We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run. Clearly it wa…

I don't think credit is really going to cut it in this situation.. and permission is unlikely to have been given had you actually asked.

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#27
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move.. We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run. Clearly it wa…

You realize you set your company up for enormous civil penalties here - $200-$150,000.

And, since you've admitted to stealing their site straight up - it might be "willful and deliberate", it could be considered a criminal act.

I'm no lawyer - but one probably wrote this: http://www.lib.purdue.edu/uco/CopyrightBasics/penalties.html

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#28
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Your new designer will be able to have a crack at an original homepage ;) http://i.imgur.com/fRI8Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbQo0.jpg

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move.. We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run. Clearly it wa…

We'll take it down if DHH insists!

It is personally my fault for not including a credit to Highrise for the design

Lesson to us: add credits

Crediting someone for their property doesn't make stealing it ok. By default, stealing is wrong. Waiting for an objection and/or linking to the owner doesn't change that. This seems like a problematic worldview for a young company.

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move.. We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run. Clearly it wa…

I don't think credit is really going to cut it in this situation.. and permission is unlikely to have been given had you actually asked.

To be fair, everyone and their mother has ripped off 37 Signals pricing table and this never seemed to bother anyone.

Re: Curebit (YC W11) Raises $1.2 Million For Online Referral System

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey - I'm one of the founders of Curebit, and yes - it was a boneheaded move.. We had a different homepage, were a/b testing different pages, came across the 37signals post and were like 'wow we should see how that converts!' We are big fans of rails and what 37signals is doing and did not really think through the implications of what we were doing. We just kind of thought about it as a fun test to run. Clearly it wa…

We'll take it down if DHH insists! It is personally my fault for not including a credit to Highrise for the design Lesson to us: add credits Crediting someone for their property doesn't make stealing it ok. By default, stealing is wrong. Waiting for an objection and/or linking to the owner doesn't change that. This seems like a problematic worldview for a young company.

It's not stealing, it's copying. 37signals still has their original. Let's get an upvote here because I know everyone in this forum agrees.
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