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The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by bitwize »

mrweasel wrote: post #53
bell-cot wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For any company of Microsoft's age & size, "doesn't need" is completely orthogonal to "corporate executive greed". You probably should "rightsize" your level of respect for MS.

> You probably should "rightsize" your level of respect for MS Maybe it would be better if Microsoft tried to live up to the standard and ideal that people like me expects from a company in their position. Realistically you're right, it would be easier for me to adjust my expectations, but I won't because I see no evidence that I'm not morally right.

Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower, dude.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by eh9 »

So, in the same way pixels have been found to illegally transmit protected health information (PHI) back to the social giants, MSFT is just sending any data in text boxes to their servers…? They’ll just deal with the class action when it comes…?

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by Firmwarrior »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #189
skrebbel wrote: post #3

I’m a longtime Windows fan, and initially I was quite enamored by Edge as well. Base UX is excellent, lots of settings and they’re easy to find. Vertical tab bar, profiles, and it all Just Works. I flat out love its “turn this website into a desktop app” feature. But by now they've shoved their core consumer products so chock full of crap that even I am starting to look for a way out. I got my son a new laptop recent…

I don’t understand why MS doesn’t get some sort of internal revolt. For the same reason that Milgram and Zimbardo didn't see a revolt among their test subjects. Whenever anyone objected to the unethical things they were told to do, all the researchers had to do was give the same order to the next subject. They didn't have to go very far down the line to find someone who would cheerfully do the dirty work. And those s…

Yeah, everyone who really wanted to make quality products or had too much self-respect quit Microsoft years ago. Right at this very second it makes sense to stay put, but most of the time any Microsoft employee can grind Leetcode for a few weeks and hop ship to another company with a 30% raise.

Last time I was there, nobody working there was happy about how things are going, except a few random sociopaths.

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Post by marcellus23 »

jlarocco wrote: post #214
koromak wrote: post #162

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Microsoft just can't stop doing this. All of their products suffer. I'm happy to fork over the absurd Apple tax just to feel comfortable at my computer, and to know I'm not going to wake up one morning to a forced OS update that has Cortana start screaming black friday deals from my desktop. I mean, ads in the task bar? I spend all of my time on my computer, I do not want all this shovelware pushed in my face at ever…

Having used OSX for ~10 years, I can say Apple isn't much better. Both systems treat the user like an idiot, just in different ways. You'll see what I mean when the OSX updates start undoing changes you've made to settings and things like that. For your own good, of course.

I have to strongly disagree with "not much better." I'm not saying Apple doesn't do some annoying stuff, but it is MUCH much better than Microsoft. Every time I use Windows I am just floored how obnoxious they are with pushing their BS. The difference is night and day.

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Post by sitzkrieg »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #163
tored wrote: post #39

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I recently switched from Edge to Firefox. Edge used to be great, but all "features" it has added the past year is not features I need, like sending my text input to Microsoft, showing online shopping suggestions, discover features, sidebar apps and what not. Edge also has a annoying bug in combination with AMD graphics card where the bottom of the screen flickers when watching certain video content in Edge, like Netf…

The Windows 10 LTSC IoT Edition still has 10 years of support, and you can apparently hack it to continue working until the 2038 bug takes the digital world down. Looking into this now.

the massgrave activation scripts work great and will perma register w a real license from ms servers. only thing id advise, if you use a pihole turn it off while running it as many popular lists block the activation servers (or related)

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by sitzkrieg »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #193
gregw2 wrote: post #106

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re: "corporate clients, who get this stuff removed"... I am currently at a Fortune 100 company and only wish my IT department would keep up with / disable all the ways automated MS(N) news feeds keep cropping up via Edge and Windows default behaviors, sometimes seemingly as part of automated updates. Every time I think I have turned one off, there is yet another way Microsoft enables some kind of news feed in its sys…

Does Microsoft add these feeds to LTSC editions as well now, or does the F100 in question scrimp on buying those?

the current LTSC is nov 2021. the next one will probably come with incrementally more crap but we'll have to see

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by gloryjulio »

gjvc wrote: post #218
gloryjulio wrote: post #216

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I use edge only as double page endless scrolling pdf reader. Haven't found the alternative yet

Chrome has two-page view for .pdf files.

Not sure which extension you are referring to. Just tried and couldn't open pdf with chrome

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by dboreham »

I use an arm surface when traveling (google doesn't ship an arm binary for chrome so I use edge). This has driven me nuts. To stop Edge from displaying ads and add-inducing news stories on a new tab, you have to install a third party extension. Microsoft disables that extension every few weeks.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Post by mshroyer »

pluc wrote: post #31

The only reason to use Edge is because your corporate policy forces you to. There is no other reason whatsoever. If you must, use Chrome if you'd rather send all that data to an advertising company in exchange for a familiar UI. Otherwise, use Firefox.

I use it because it does better than Chrome or Firefox for my laptop's battery life. It's an unwanted hassle to stay on top of these new privacy settings though, and I wouldn't recommend Edge to a non-technical family matter for that reason.
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