More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
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#2As someone who racked up nearly $80K in debt going to art school, I think they're making the right choice (mostly). In some cases it really makes sense to go to college, but it's a terrible model for many skills.
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#3I wish it were easier to get a visa and move to another country without a degree. As someone without a degree, that's been the most annoying issue.
The best parts are: not having student loans and not having a mindset that grinding within "the system" leads to success.
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#4My daughter got rejected from one of the UC. They received 130+k application for 6k openings.
Re: More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
#5As someone who racked up nearly $80K in debt going to art school, I think they're making the right choice (mostly). In some cases it really makes sense to go to college, but it's a terrible model for many skills.
Not to be rude or unsypathetic, but did you think that spending $80K was going to turn you into an artist?
Re: More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
#6As someone who racked up nearly $80K in debt going to art school, I think they're making the right choice (mostly). In some cases it really makes sense to go to college, but it's a terrible model for many skills.
With there being a huge shortage in trades and other roles where they'll provide an apprenticeship, versus credential inflation and jobs requiring a bachelor's just for entry level positions, it makes sense to go where you're valued as a worker and be catered to instead of having your originated student loans extracted from you for simply a chance at a white collar job.
https://www.newsweek.com/forget-college-skilled-trades-are-f...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/despite-rising-salaries-th...
Re: More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
#7My daughter got rejected from one of the UC. They received 130+k application for 6k openings.
The acceptance ratio is a poor measure, because applying to multiple schools is easy. Likewise, I first remember skyrocketing ratios of applicants to job openings when laser printers became ubiquitous.
In between college versus apprenticeship, students could apply for both and then pick the one that seems like the best deal.
Re: More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
#8As someone who racked up nearly $80K in debt going to art school, I think they're making the right choice (mostly). In some cases it really makes sense to go to college, but it's a terrible model for many skills.
Did you have fun though? Because imho, that’s part of the point.
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#9I have been programming for a Fortune 500 company for four years. Not long ago, I applied for a job at another Fortune 500 company. HR really had only question for me, they saw on my resume I did not have a college degree listed, and did I have one? I said I went through most of college towards a Bachelors in Computer Science but dropped out before graduation. I did not get the job, although I don't know if that's why. Same thing has happened in the past with other HR departments. It's not completely fatal, but it's not helpful either, rather the opposite.
I went to a good state school and didn't rack up any debt while going to college.
In recent headier times, a BSCS was a preferred requirement. In the current environment, I can easily see job listings on Linkedin that say a BSCS is a minimum requirement.
It's just another stumbling block that can be in your path. Some people don't have a problem with it in their career, and in headier times it doesn't matter, but when layoffs are happening as they are now, and companies are flooded with dozens or hundreds of resumes, an easy thing to do is just look who has a BSCS and who doesn't and put the latter in the wastebasket.
Re: More students are turning away from college and toward apprenticeships
#10My daughter got rejected from one of the UC. They received 130+k application for 6k openings.
YIMBYism in California has been and will continue to be about expanding the schools (and not just building new ones in bumbfuck) a lot.