Live data from Hacker News

Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

acc.org

31–40 of 150 posts

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#33
post #26

I'll keep saying it: sleep apnea is vastly underdiagnosed and undertreated. I had so many weird symptoms for so long, which all gradually started to disappear as I started to get my sleep apnea treated. Unless you're fat, doctors will rarely even consider the possibility. And once you do get a polysomnogram, the usualy course of action is to throw a CPAP machine at you and send you on your way, without much followup.…

Two relatives in my family who are highly symptomatic were turned down by their primary care when they asked for a sleep study. One for being too skinny and the other for being "too cheerful".

If you want to criticize the pap manufacturers, there's a lot more than just that too. There's a shortage of machines because of the negligence of the Philips company. Documents have shown that they knew their machines were causing problems for years before finally doing a recall.

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, say sleeping well adds 6 months to your life, then not sleeping well "killed" you 6 months earlier.

If you sleep for 20 extra minutes every day, that's a full extra year sleeping over a 72 year span. (If you exclude 1/3 of the time as sleep, that's a year and a half of extra awake time.) If you gain 1.5 years of extra time awake but lose 0.5 years of life, did you win or lose time?

Well but there's a lot more to sleep than time. I know waking up 20 minutes earlier then my bodies decided wake time creates much more than 20 minutes of grogginess. Waking up n minutes before sleep Cycle end might be okay for some people but in the times I've had to set my alarm a little earlier, the time of waking makes a difference all day.

Now, if you're already not sleeping enough for your body and get woken up groggy and tired by an alarm every morning, that 20 minutes probably won't kill you faster than the lessened sleep you already get.

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#35

As a tangent, I got a new bed couple of weeks ago. My old one had been around for ages and was well past it's expiration date. It cost a small fortune but Jesus Herbert Christ on a tandem bicycle has it made a difference on how I feel during the day. I fall a sleep faster, wake up more well rested. First few mornings I was just sort of confused by the feeling of waking up profoundly physically relaxed. Felt very weir…

How did you chose your new mattress? I've had a hard time knowing from the short impressions in a mattress store if that mattress is really what I want or just feels nice for 5 minutes in a store

Not OP but I’ve had a very good experience just buying thick foam toppers for super cheap. Can’t link but you can buy 12’ foam pads straight from the factory in mattress size for a few hundred dollars. It’s essentially like buying a foam mattress.

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#36

As a tangent, I got a new bed couple of weeks ago. My old one had been around for ages and was well past it's expiration date. It cost a small fortune but Jesus Herbert Christ on a tandem bicycle has it made a difference on how I feel during the day. I fall a sleep faster, wake up more well rested. First few mornings I was just sort of confused by the feeling of waking up profoundly physically relaxed. Felt very weir…

How did you chose your new mattress? I've had a hard time knowing from the short impressions in a mattress store if that mattress is really what I want or just feels nice for 5 minutes in a store

We've had good luck buying basic spring mattresses with almost no extra features and then experimenting with toppers. You can throw 2 or 3 inches of latex or memory foam on it and it gives you that instant comfort.

Cheap spring mattresses seem to be getting harder to find online. I believe the margins are much higher on memory foam products.

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#37
I've currently got two issues with my sleep: I'm a chronic couch sleeper and I am incapable of sleeping in. The first problem is most nights, about half my night, from 11-3am usually, I sleep on the couch before getting up and going to bed, I don't feel tired the morning after but I know there's an impact. The second issue is that I just can't sleep in, if I go to bed at 11pm, I wake up at 7am, if I'm out late with friends and stay up till 3am, I'm still up at 7am. For me it's like at 7am my brain just starts working, I was laying in my bed at 6:50am this morning and my brain is already going "alright we gotta work on that new database, oh how should I design it, yada, yada, yada", after a while of staring at the ceiling I always just go "fuck it might as well get to work".

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#38
I really wanted there to be controllable habits listed in this article, but instead it was about sleep characteristics.

Telling me that "having trouble falling asleep," or "having trouble staying asleep," or "not feeling alert upon waking" are working against me is useless to me. These aren't "habits." I'm not choosing to do them until they become routine. They just happen to me.

Tell me how to FIX those things. Tell me what habits would help me fall asleep, stay asleep, and feel rested.

As-is, this isn't actionable. It's just, "Hey, people who don't sleep well don't live as long."

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#39
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Went to several stores and tried a whole bunch of mattresses. Tried several dozen beds and got input from a bunch of different salespeople. Was like a 2-3 week vetting process before I found something great. A bit of a hassle, but well worth it though.

What kind of mattress was it in the end? Springs? Memory foam? And how hard?

It's a firm spring mattress with a relatively thick and soft mattress topper.

But it's a bit of a compromise. My girlfriend hates foam mattresses even though I thought they felt great. This set-up lets me get a somewhat similar feel of sinking into the bed while being well supported.

She's also much lighter than I am and wants a soft mattress, so her side of the bed is softer.

Re: Sleep habits may have long-term benefits

#40
post #26

I'll keep saying it: sleep apnea is vastly underdiagnosed and undertreated. I had so many weird symptoms for so long, which all gradually started to disappear as I started to get my sleep apnea treated. Unless you're fat, doctors will rarely even consider the possibility. And once you do get a polysomnogram, the usualy course of action is to throw a CPAP machine at you and send you on your way, without much followup.…

What symptoms did you have, if one may ask?
Post reply on HN