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Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by houseinthesky »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #106
pxtail wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not "old man yells" - your observation is very on point, a lot of people are simply lonely for one reason or other and I think that this kind of videos or livestreams serve as substitute for real person. There are many popular services where it manifests: twitch, youtube, vtube, OF, etc. And of course it's not only teenagers who are feeling lonely and isolated and of course answer is not simple "just have friend…

To the 4 questions: 1. Go outside 2. Go outside 3. Go outside 4. No. Go outside. It sounds dumb, but really. I'm an introvert, I have social anxiety, I've had periods where I don't see another human face for months. On the other hand I've made good friends just from random strangers talking to me in public. Even the most socially inept can make friends. It's just a matter of placing yourself in the physical vicinity…

> If you struggle talking to people Like I have, have a few drinks. That's been my experience anyway.

This is a lot of people's experience... and a whole lot of us really, really, really regret it years later. Alcohol is an incredibly dangerous and insidious tool to use for social anxiety. It works great at first, so you ignore the negative effects. But over time, it makes everything worse.

Drinking alcohol decreases anxiety initially, but over time causes the body to raise base anxiety levels. It also lowers testosterone, messes with the lining of the gut and gut microbiome (which can also increase anxiety and negatively impact mood due to the strong gut-brain axis of emotional regulation and signaling) and negatively impacts numerous other parts of the body.

My education around "alcohol is bad" was either warnings about bad behavior while inebriated or vague intangible health risks in the distant future, both of which were easy to ignore. Sharing because I wish someone had informed me that the drink in my 20s to temporarily blunt social anxiety would make my life so much worse by my 30s.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

#112

Post by 7952 »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #69
throw74648284 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I relate to your sentiment, and then I think about how hard it was to explain to my parents why I enjoy watching others play video games.

In person, I get it. You chill with someone you like, you don't need to do much to enjoy it. Like reading together, or just being there. However, I don't get watching pewdiepie playing something. I just can't groke it. You don't know the person, the person is not in the room, the person is not even currently playing since it's a recording. It's a flat image of someone else having fun. And not somebody particularly go…

I think people like to have something to watch and something to listen to. It makes it harder for your brain to go off at a tangent because it has more to occupy it. I think this reduces anxiety and intrusive thoughts. They may even be fidgeting with something to keep their hands occupied for the same reason. Maybe it is more like meditation than porn.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

#113

Post by pxtail »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #106
pxtail wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not "old man yells" - your observation is very on point, a lot of people are simply lonely for one reason or other and I think that this kind of videos or livestreams serve as substitute for real person. There are many popular services where it manifests: twitch, youtube, vtube, OF, etc. And of course it's not only teenagers who are feeling lonely and isolated and of course answer is not simple "just have friend…

To the 4 questions: 1. Go outside 2. Go outside 3. Go outside 4. No. Go outside. It sounds dumb, but really. I'm an introvert, I have social anxiety, I've had periods where I don't see another human face for months. On the other hand I've made good friends just from random strangers talking to me in public. Even the most socially inept can make friends. It's just a matter of placing yourself in the physical vicinity…

"Go outside" is not always the solution, not every city, country, society is the same and this advice sounds similar to already mocked by me "just have friends, lol".

Even if you assume that it's not difficult to met some people then it is difficult to have really meaningful relationship, not facade with fake smiles, fake greetings and bam! contact lost on a whim. It's not coincidence that true, years-long,lifelong friendships are often forged in the school, military etc. - it's just very long process to find compatible people, become even more compatible, learn to rely on each other and learn to value that. I guess this also depends on how one's definition of "friend" looks like - there are multiple other words to chose from: coworkers, acquaintances, random people, etc.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by LocalH »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #69
throw74648284 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I relate to your sentiment, and then I think about how hard it was to explain to my parents why I enjoy watching others play video games.

In person, I get it. You chill with someone you like, you don't need to do much to enjoy it. Like reading together, or just being there. However, I don't get watching pewdiepie playing something. I just can't groke it. You don't know the person, the person is not in the room, the person is not even currently playing since it's a recording. It's a flat image of someone else having fun. And not somebody particularly go…

It honestly for me depends on how deep one is in a community. I am pretty heavily part of the Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Clone Hero community, and I watch a decent amount of such streaming. However, I also know many of them online, and a good few of them I've even met in person.

It's okay if you don't get it, if you don't enjoy watching others game. Doesn't mean others can't

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

houseinthesky wrote: post #111
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To the 4 questions: 1. Go outside 2. Go outside 3. Go outside 4. No. Go outside. It sounds dumb, but really. I'm an introvert, I have social anxiety, I've had periods where I don't see another human face for months. On the other hand I've made good friends just from random strangers talking to me in public. Even the most socially inept can make friends. It's just a matter of placing yourself in the physical vicinity…

> If you struggle talking to people Like I have, have a few drinks. That's been my experience anyway. This is a lot of people's experience... and a whole lot of us really, really, really regret it years later. Alcohol is an incredibly dangerous and insidious tool to use for social anxiety. It works great at first, so you ignore the negative effects. But over time, it makes everything worse. Drinking alcohol decreases…

I'm not suggesting becoming an alcoholic, which I am not. But I have become addicted to other drugs before for similar reasons. But to say that light-to-moderate drinking will seriously worsen your life is a bit hyperbolic. It can very much help if your anxiety is so bad you can't even bring yourself to say hello to someone and if someone does, you disappear up your own a-hole. That used to be me. Alcohol helped me take that initial step of talking to anyone at all, about anything, ever. Once I did, I got more practice and I managed to get more comfortable talking to people even when sober.

One unit of alcohol can be sufficient. No need to get drunk or even be around other people who are drinking.

Drinking is just like anything else. It can be a tool or a crutch. The really hard thing me was it was so bad I couldn't even have a meaningful conversation with a therapist. And meds were a total waste of time for me(though I very much recommend trying if you think they might help).

I don't want to trivialise your experiences, but you might be unintentionally trivialising my experiences too, though I'm not at all offended :)

Strangely enough, I never even began to approach any risk of addiction with alcohol. It's puzzling to me because I get easily addicted to just about anything else, even weed.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

pxtail wrote: post #113
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To the 4 questions: 1. Go outside 2. Go outside 3. Go outside 4. No. Go outside. It sounds dumb, but really. I'm an introvert, I have social anxiety, I've had periods where I don't see another human face for months. On the other hand I've made good friends just from random strangers talking to me in public. Even the most socially inept can make friends. It's just a matter of placing yourself in the physical vicinity…

"Go outside" is not always the solution, not every city, country, society is the same and this advice sounds similar to already mocked by me "just have friends, lol". Even if you assume that it's not difficult to met some people then it is difficult to have really meaningful relationship, not facade with fake smiles, fake greetings and bam! contact lost on a whim. It's not coincidence that true, years-long,lifelong f…

It's certainly true that very meaningful friendships are much rarer. But the only way to find them is to wade through lots of less meaningful ones.

Hell the person I consider my very best friend was just some dude I bought hash from at some point. I basically met him by accident looking for some drugs to sit at home and be alone and depressed. Then we realised we're kindred spirits, hackers, same taste in film and music, similar yet different philosophical views. We eventually ended up working together for over a year in a startup, and though we no longer live in the same city, we still try to arrange a week or two a year hanging out together hacking away on whatever we want to.

I have almost no friends from school that I keep in touch with today at all. And the ones I have on social media look like truly boring people for the most part.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by [deleted] »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #108
Animats wrote: post #8

Celebrities are not your friends. Remember all those celebrities who claimed they'd bought Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs? That was all a scam.[1] It was put together by a Hollywood agent who represented both a long list of major celebrities and BAYC. Now there's a lawsuit against all the parties involved. Kim Kardashian was already fined a few million dollars by the SEC for that sort of thing. [1] https://variety.com/202…

Celebrities marketing things isn't new Do you think George Clooney drinks Lavazza coffee? Does that make it a scam?

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Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by tacker2000 »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #108
Animats wrote: post #8

Celebrities are not your friends. Remember all those celebrities who claimed they'd bought Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs? That was all a scam.[1] It was put together by a Hollywood agent who represented both a long list of major celebrities and BAYC. Now there's a lawsuit against all the parties involved. Kim Kardashian was already fined a few million dollars by the SEC for that sort of thing. [1] https://variety.com/202…

Celebrities marketing things isn't new Do you think George Clooney drinks Lavazza coffee? Does that make it a scam?

Duh! He drinks Nespresso, not Lavazza

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by nickthegreek »

wheybags wrote: post #100
berjin wrote: post #46

> Drop shipping, or the practice of PURCHASING cheap goods, usually from China, and selling them on a legitimate-seeming website for profit Vox doesn't even understand what drop shipping is. The whole point is that the goods don't need to be owned. Vox are mad people are watching dumb videos instead of their own low quality articles.

I think people might be down voting you because they also don't know what drop shipping is. To clarify: drop shipping is when you have no inventory, take customer orders, and then simply forward those orders. So, for example, If I get an order for a hairbrush on ebay, instead of shipping a hairbrush myself, I would go on alibaba or similar, and order a hairbrush shipped straight to my customer.

Or it is a customized item, say a tshirt with an artists image. They still don’t want to hold inventory (all those sizes and shirt skus), so the item is printed on demand and drop shipped from the manufacturer.

Re: YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by adolph »

It was interesting to read the article after reading the top comments, which seem more based on a headline rather than tfa read. The nut graph is at the end:

If you’re taking AI or drop shipping startup ideas from online videos with hundreds of thousands of views, you’ve already lost. This is a truth of media literacy, not business or science, and it’s a lot more difficult to learn than watching a YouTube video that basically amounts to “eight easy ways to lose your life savings.”

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