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The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

#21

    Did you know that out-of-the-box, Edge will transmit the content of
    your text boxes on web pages to the Microsoft Editor service for the
    purpose of grammatical suggestions? I have no idea how this concept
    got past legal but hey, it’s on by default now.
Holy shit. :(

At what point are some of the major government legal departments actually going to step up and sort this shit out?

It is so, so, so, so, so far past overdue. Yet nothing. :(

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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I’ve seen those screenshots too, I spent hours googling for this. But that setting is not available on my Windows. Maybe a pro vs home thing? I’m on the latest version. I don’t believe that this is by accident, I think MS decided that I’m in some customer segment that’s not allowed to not know that Jimmy Fallon might be depressed. And even then, I can’t get the widgets feature, a pretty decent idea, without the news.…

I have Win11 Pro and it really is just those three clicks.

I’m not going to pay MS even more just to get a version that has a “please disable this one specific bit of crap” toggle. This has got to be the worst upsell ever.

It’s like you book a hotel room and the TV is on Fox News and you can’t turn the TV off. You ask around but everybody says that they can turn it off just fine, must be you. Turns out that they’re all in the executive suite and they also have Fox News on the TV, turned on by default when they enter the room, but for them the hotel didn’t hide the remote.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

#23
There's also the dark bit where changing your default browser in Windows doesn't apply globally.

That is, some UI widgets will still open Edge even if you change the default.

There used to be an awesome open source project called EdgeDeflector that would fix that. Microsoft got wise to it and found a way to neutralize it, which killed the project. https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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It's just three clicks to disable widgets, "Right click taskbar, select taskbar settings, click on slider to turn widgets off".

That does not disable widgets. That only hides the button that toggles it. (Edit 29 minutes after, because I can't seem to post anymore:) It still runs its webview in the background and can be toggled with the keyboard shortcut, Win+W, even if the button is hidden. In order to fully disable it you need a Group Policy or a registry hack.

What's the practical difference?

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Except I can’t ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35208271 ). Also I don’t understand why “not a core moneymaker” implies “this must be crap-maximized”.

>Except I can’t Maybe it's a Win Pro edition thing and not on HOme. >Also I don’t understand why “not a core moneymaker” implies “this must be crap-maximized”. What you don't understand is irelevant to the Microsoft board meetings where they show ad-revenue go up, because money is the only thing they understand, user experience be dammed. What are those users gonna do, install Ubuntu? /s

Buy chromebooks most likely

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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post #6

> Apple doesn’t try to make revenue from Safari because they don’t need to. Apart from the small matter of Google paying Apple $15bn to be the default search engine in Safari.

Nobody would criticize Microsoft if they did the same with Edge and left it at that .

I sincerely doubt that.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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>Except I can’t Maybe it's a Win Pro edition thing and not on HOme. >Also I don’t understand why “not a core moneymaker” implies “this must be crap-maximized”. What you don't understand is irelevant to the Microsoft board meetings where they show ad-revenue go up, because money is the only thing they understand, user experience be dammed. What are those users gonna do, install Ubuntu? /s

Buy chromebooks most likely

I've never seen chromebooks in continental Europe though. Maybe it's an AMerican & UK thing.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Except I can’t ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35208271 ). Also I don’t understand why “not a core moneymaker” implies “this must be crap-maximized”.

>Except I can’t Maybe it's a Win Pro edition thing and not on HOme. >Also I don’t understand why “not a core moneymaker” implies “this must be crap-maximized”. What you don't understand is irelevant to the Microsoft board meetings where they show ad-revenue go up, because money is the only thing they understand, user experience be dammed. What are those users gonna do, install Ubuntu? /s

I'm on Home. I don't remember what I clicked to make it go away, but it's gone. Turning off Search highlights also got rid of the news garbage in the start menu. Now it's more like KDE's launcher.

Re: The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge

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Buy chromebooks most likely

I've never seen chromebooks in continental Europe though. Maybe it's an AMerican & UK thing.

Fwiw I’m in continental Europe too and the local Media Markt has about 30% Chromebooks in the laptop department. The sales guy actively tried to push them last time I talked to one.
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