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YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by Last5Digits »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #66
AlecSchueler wrote: post #64

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They also had two of their developmental years during lockdowns with the minimal social exposure. I've heard from some teachers that the younger children they see coming up find it very scary to interact with real kids.

I though as well, and without a doubt it added to it (I have teacher friends that give me bleak reports for the cohort that went through it), but this thing started before the pandemic. Also, I told myself, it's like watching sport instead of playing it, but something seems different.

I think it's more like sitcoms. A cast of slightly funny and charismatic characters going through mildly interesting experiences has been a mainstay of entertainment media for some time now.

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Post by roland35 »

saagarjha wrote: post #35
varsketiz wrote: post #25

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It's not black or white. There are people in the startup ecosystem that are driven mainly by money and there are those more idealistic.

The startup industry is a great place for the people who are driven by money to prey on those that are idealistic, just like the game industry profits off of people who really like video games.

Hopefully now with more information available out there us workers can stand up more for ourselves and get more for the value of our labor and expertise!

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Post by wruza »

scotty79 wrote: post #27
jen729w wrote: post #14

What I find distasteful about these fellas is that they’re not adding anything to the world. They’re taking away. It’s what I love about HN. Sure, most of us wouldn’t mind being rich (sorry, ‘financially independent’), but it’s not the driver. The driver is to make something cool; to make something better. I couldn’t imagine being the sort of person who sold people cheap Chinese shit just so I could buy a ‘Lambo’. Ev…

> What I find distasteful about these fellas is that they’re not adding anything to the world. They’re taking away. I find that distasteful about the whole advertising industry, that celebrities are just a part of.

Including reviews and ratings industry. Advertisement is not the engine of the trade anymore, Search is. Ads and reviews only destroy what Search and old newspaper ads created and should be finally heavily regulated, in search too. It’s a legalized fraud nobody cares about.

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Post by jen729w »

nullcipher wrote: post #23
jen729w wrote: post #14

What I find distasteful about these fellas is that they’re not adding anything to the world. They’re taking away. It’s what I love about HN. Sure, most of us wouldn’t mind being rich (sorry, ‘financially independent’), but it’s not the driver. The driver is to make something cool; to make something better. I couldn’t imagine being the sort of person who sold people cheap Chinese shit just so I could buy a ‘Lambo’. Ev…

> It’s what I love about HN. Sure, most of us wouldn’t mind being rich (sorry, ‘financially independent’), but it’s not the driver. The driver is to make something cool; to make something better. Is this sarcasm? If it's genuine, I can think of many reasons. Either you are too young or wearing horse blinds or not living in the valley. Practically every start up is driven by a desire to be rich. This is why everyone s…

> Is this sarcasm?

No. I’m a long way — physically — from ‘the valley’, and I’m certainly not young.

When I say ‘HN’ I mean the day to day discussion on this site. I know there’s VC and whatnot here but really, mostly, that’s not what I’m reading. Perhaps I subconsciously avoid it?

I’m reading people who are passionate about technology. I’m reading nerds who love a new thing. That’s what brings me back here day after day.

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Post by luckylion »

meghan_rain wrote: post #63

I agree with the article that those are narcissistic psychopaths but then there is this quote from the tweet: > - 8 hours sleep > - No porn > - Hit the gym > - Make lots of money > - Have a big family > This is the magic of life. The author points to that like those are supposed to be bad/vain things. Hard disagree. Whoever wants to nudge me not to pursue the above (here: author of the article) is my enemy. So I desp…

I don't think it's mentioned as "this is bad", it's "this is what they pretend to be about to lure in young men who lack direction in life so they can exploit them".

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

Last5Digits wrote: post #71
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #66

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I though as well, and without a doubt it added to it (I have teacher friends that give me bleak reports for the cohort that went through it), but this thing started before the pandemic. Also, I told myself, it's like watching sport instead of playing it, but something seems different.

I think it's more like sitcoms. A cast of slightly funny and charismatic characters going through mildly interesting experiences has been a mainstay of entertainment media for some time now.

Possibly, like latino soap opera but for kids.

I never could grasp the former, so maybe that's why I don't get the latter.

I browse youtube anonymously and so I get the neutral youtube experience, with what it things the average user wants.

Today I say a video suggestion with kids in the pics and a title "we made a blind test to distinguish frozen food from real one".

It's a really easy thing to do with your friend and family, unlike the soap opera scenario. It's typically stuff I have done, and actually still do.

So there must be a component I miss.

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Post by pronik »

throw74648284 wrote: post #65
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #59

Just an aside, but I've noticed a lot of popular video trends among the younger generation revolve around watching somebody you don't really know, doing things I would I've done with friends. Reaction videos, eating things, hanging out and making jokes, making a stupid contest, trying some new experience... It's like there is an entire part of the children/teen population that have such a bland life they feel good wh…

I relate to your sentiment, and then I think about how hard it was to explain to my parents why I enjoy watching others play video games.

It's easy: people watch other people play ball on television instead of playing themselves. Sometimes they watch celebrities play ball, because they suck at it, but it's entertaining. Same thing here with video games, you might watch a pro, you also might watch a great entertainer.

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Post by theshrike79 »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #69
throw74648284 wrote: post #65

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I relate to your sentiment, and then I think about how hard it was to explain to my parents why I enjoy watching others play video games.

In person, I get it. You chill with someone you like, you don't need to do much to enjoy it. Like reading together, or just being there. However, I don't get watching pewdiepie playing something. I just can't groke it. You don't know the person, the person is not in the room, the person is not even currently playing since it's a recording. It's a flat image of someone else having fun. And not somebody particularly go…

I've explained it to myself like this: It's exactly like watching sports.

You want to watch it live on tv, even though the fact that you're watching has zero impact on the result. You're just watching other people play a game. You could do anything else and just check the scores afterwards, but still you want to watch it.

Some people will watch a recording of the game and still enjoy it even though the scores were determined hours ago.

The younger generation does the same thing, but instead of sports they watch someone play a game.

I don't understand either, but I can live with it =)

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

pronik wrote: post #77
throw74648284 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I relate to your sentiment, and then I think about how hard it was to explain to my parents why I enjoy watching others play video games.

It's easy: people watch other people play ball on television instead of playing themselves. Sometimes they watch celebrities play ball, because they suck at it, but it's entertaining. Same thing here with video games, you might watch a pro, you also might watch a great entertainer.

> Sometimes they watch celebrities play ball, because they suck at it, but it's entertaining

That's the part I don't get.

Also, at least some celebrities are indeed professional entertainers.

But the videos I talk about, I would have thought the people in there were not funnier than my real friends, even at 12 years old. They have nothing special about it.

Maybe that's the key? That they are as average as the viewer?

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Post by polotics »

swarnie wrote: post #18
colechristensen wrote: post #15

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People complaining about politics isn’t the same as securities fraud.

Calling an NFT a security might be the most charitable definition ever.

NFT are just lame collectibles. A security has to secure ownership of something tangible that's not just its own definition of value or uniqueness.
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