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SETI@home is in hibernation

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Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

#181

We need something like seti@home for large language model calculation. As OpenAI is completely closed now.

A couple of links -

Refs:

[1] Awesome Distributed System Projects, https://github.com/roma-glushko/awesome-distributed-system-p...

[2] Distributed Computing with Open-Source Software http://stanford.edu/~rezab/slides/infosys_reza.pdf

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

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After looking at my utility bill, less than half of the cost is electricity and natgas; the rest is delivery charges -- that is, paying to maintain the power grid itself. Assuming the utility is breaking that down more or less honestly, reducing the cost of electricity here probably wouldn't decrease my utility bill as dramatically as one might guess. (And I live in California, where electricity prices are notoriousl…

What doesn't make sense to me is why this delivery charge keeps going up? Is it just PG&E throwing a fit about having to modernize its lines so they don't cause fires anymore?

Or, alternatively, that they were only so low before this because someone decided to skip maintenance for 50 years.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

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Yeah. They are. https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023... The only time a senior DOD / military official uses the word "possible" is when it's either happened or is going to happen. "It's possible you guys will be deployed within the next year." means "You guys are going to be deployed sometime within the next year."

I'm a veteran, can confirm this language. In fact, the weirdest thing to me about the announcement was that... nobody cared. And yet, this made sense, because... Wildly speculating, I think there's been a big systematic desensitization program going on due to that being effective against phobias (such as this one, which I'll call "astroxenophobia"): https://www.healthline.com/health/systematic-desensitization If the…

> In fact, the weirdest thing to me about the announcement was that... nobody cared.

Senior military official saying something got devalued a lot since the aftermath of nine-eleven.

Legitimizing ufologists is just last nail in the burried coffin laced with remaining shreds of credibility.

> no such announcement would have ever been made in 1987 because either the announcer would have had to resign in disgrace or we might have had a good chance for public pandemonium.

That's because the internet conditioned us into tolerating inanities coming from the mouths of people we thought should know better. People chose and tolerated for years a president that used primary school English and reasoning.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

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The last time I ran SETI@home (and Folding@home), I had a fixed desktop machine that I always left on, and I think it was old enough that the fan speeds weren't variable, so it was just constant background white noise. In that context, running those apps in the background all day and all night was fine, and if they ever noticeably interfered with performance while I was using the machine, pausing them for a bit was e…

I just cant get a laptop i feel comfortable working on, they all have that slow feel, where a desktop is just crisp and i can always just switch out anything i dont like about the current build..

Amen brother. It's like driving on a mountain highway with the windows down compared to commuting in a subway.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

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We did that as well on a bunch of spare Sun SPARC servers that were considered powerful back in their day. A part of me always wondered if I had been tricked into cracking encryption for the assorted agencies and that this had nothing to do with monitoring the quietest frequency in the galaxy.

Lol! I worked for SETI@home as an undergrad. If something nefarious was going on then my coworkers were extremely good actors, right down to faking an entire codebase and a database filled with processed work units. Hey, I'd probably be suspicious of SETI too if I hadn't worked for SETI. Cheers!

That's exactly what an NSA agent would say!

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

#187
It sucks because with GPT finally rising to maturity, AI could have helped analyze and parse huge amounts of data that humans would never be able to go through.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

#188

It seems the aliens are already here, so not much need for SETI anymore. More seriously though, it appears there was some unresolved difficulty in searching and analyzing the data returned from the network, to the point the scientists working on it gradually threw in the towel and moved on to other projects. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85996 https://einsteinathome.org/content/can-we-run-setiho…

Yeah. They are. https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023... The only time a senior DOD / military official uses the word "possible" is when it's either happened or is going to happen. "It's possible you guys will be deployed within the next year." means "You guys are going to be deployed sometime within the next year."

This guy is a scientist, not military personnel.

When a scientist says "it's possible" it just means "it's not impossible", that's it.

Remove the tinfoil hat.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

#189

Wow, this is sad. I remember when this project was released in 1999 - we installed it on all the workstations in our office in an effort to be the first to find ET. Loved bragging about the cool graph, saying it could be an alien signal. Sad to see the project come to an end, even if it was the distant precursor to things like BitTorrent and Bitcoin

This is even sadder: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85870&po...

Not everything that's old is worth saving.

Re: SETI@home is in hibernation

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post #153

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I don't know if you know this but electricity can travel through conductors to other places.

Not everything is connected to the grid, you know. Here's an example of a single hydro dam a LONG way from the grid which (pre-Cryptocurrency gold rush) had 12 MW of unused power generation capacity plus they were talking up the possibility of adding an additional 20 MW of generation. https://www.hydroreview.com/business-finance/boralex-acquire... It's not going to be the only one.

Almost everything is connected to the grid. And even if it isn't... Even if it is an isolated hydro plant only connected to a data centre, other useful digital services could have run there instead.

There's really no getting away from the fact that cryptocurrencies waste huge amounts of energy, significantly contributing to climate change just to move money from idiots to arseholes.

Not just energy too - think how many resources it takes to make 120k GPUs. He should feel deep guilt about it.

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