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YouTube millionaires are not your friends

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Post by varsketiz »

camillomiller wrote: post #29
varsketiz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not black or white. There are people in the startup ecosystem that are driven mainly by money and there are those more idealistic.

I’m sorry, but no. Not anymore. Everything is run by being able to get money from VC investors, and to make money for them. It IS the main driver. Idealists learn pretty fast how their idealism won’t take them anywhere in Silicon Valley of 2023. Or they’re stupid or tone deaf enough to keep on going and thinking that their n-th to-do list app will change the world. I’m afraid I gotta break it to you, but your romanti…

It can be the main driver for some, but not the only one for all :)

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Post by uncletaco »

frou_dh wrote: post #21
Animats wrote: post #8

Celebrities are not your friends. Remember all those celebrities who claimed they'd bought Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs? That was all a scam.[1] It was put together by a Hollywood agent who represented both a long list of major celebrities and BAYC. Now there's a lawsuit against all the parties involved. Kim Kardashian was already fined a few million dollars by the SEC for that sort of thing. [1] https://variety.com/202…

That's just funny to me. Those ugly cartoons were never cool and anyone using one for their avatar looked like a moron from day 1 all the way through to day N

I loved bored apes tbh and wish they appeared in a different context. Like as a pepe alternative.

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Post by holoduke »

Nobody you have really befriended (in real life for a long stable period) can't be your friend. No emmotional expession in commercials or other people towards you is genuine. Its all so they get what they want from you. Money or attention. Of course the random stranger you meet can be an exception. But i never understood how people can fall in love with brands, (most) artists etc. There is no mutual feeling.

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Post by highwaylights »

Velc wrote: post #13

“If you’re taking AI or drop shipping startup ideas from online videos with hundreds of thousands of views, you’ve already lost.” So nobody can find inspiration and learn about new things from YouTube videos? This seems like a fairly obtuse statement. I don’t watch these hustle porn guys on YouTube but I learn a hell of a lot from smaller tech YouTubers who produce educational content. The author is clearly quite sal…

I think you’ve missed the point of the comment.

The point is that these people aren’t making their money from what they’re preaching, they’re making it from YouTube.

Even if there were some validity to what they’re saying in the videos, if the video has 3 million views by the time you’ve watched it then you’re at least the 3 millionth fish in the packed-to-the-gills salmon farm by then and there’s no margin left for you.

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Post by saagarjha »

varsketiz wrote: post #25
nullcipher wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s what I love about HN. Sure, most of us wouldn’t mind being rich (sorry, ‘financially independent’), but it’s not the driver. The driver is to make something cool; to make something better. Is this sarcasm? If it's genuine, I can think of many reasons. Either you are too young or wearing horse blinds or not living in the valley. Practically every start up is driven by a desire to be rich. This is why everyone s…

It's not black or white. There are people in the startup ecosystem that are driven mainly by money and there are those more idealistic.

The startup industry is a great place for the people who are driven by money to prey on those that are idealistic, just like the game industry profits off of people who really like video games.

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Velc wrote: post #13

“If you’re taking AI or drop shipping startup ideas from online videos with hundreds of thousands of views, you’ve already lost.” So nobody can find inspiration and learn about new things from YouTube videos? This seems like a fairly obtuse statement. I don’t watch these hustle porn guys on YouTube but I learn a hell of a lot from smaller tech YouTubers who produce educational content. The author is clearly quite sal…

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Post by ryandrake »

jen729w wrote: post #14

What I find distasteful about these fellas is that they’re not adding anything to the world. They’re taking away. It’s what I love about HN. Sure, most of us wouldn’t mind being rich (sorry, ‘financially independent’), but it’s not the driver. The driver is to make something cool; to make something better. I couldn’t imagine being the sort of person who sold people cheap Chinese shit just so I could buy a ‘Lambo’. Ev…

I admit I envy their ability to not care how they are making their money.

I was once pitched a gig that, after you boiled away the flowery tech contraptions, amounted simply to “run your own scummy leadgen business.” I felt like I had to take a shower after hearing that pitch. Wouldn’t it be nice if I didn’t have that part of my brain that recoils in disgust at treating other human beings as “leads” to be bought and sold?

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Post by sirsinsalot »

analognoise wrote: post #20

What's sad is that there are so many unmoored men who are drawn to this type of thing; that a true and caring network of real people and relationships eludes them, and that they were not taught to distinguish reality from artifice. It's deeply, crushingly sad that a flimflam gimmick preying on parasocial affection is a draw - they're so low that it works on them. How do you even undo that kind of damage?

Give parents education on parenting. In the UK at least they're sort of left to just work it out.

Often that means give the kids a smartphone or tablet because that keeps them quiet.

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Post by MarcoZavala »

uncletaco wrote: post #32
frou_dh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just funny to me. Those ugly cartoons were never cool and anyone using one for their avatar looked like a moron from day 1 all the way through to day N

I loved bored apes tbh and wish they appeared in a different context. Like as a pepe alternative.

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Post by echelon »

ekianjo wrote: post #7
ThePinion wrote: post #6

Vox is also not your friend.

conflict of interest. The more influence youtube gets, the more the other media channels are going to say bad things about them

> conflict of interest. The more influence youtube gets, the more the other media channels are going to say bad things about them

The more influence [X] gets, the more [Y] are going to say bad things about them

You can observe this everywhere. From high school hallways to government and corporate orgs.

We get to practice this with football teams, but it bleeds over into politics.

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