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The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Re: The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Post by Jeff_Brown »

sberens wrote: post #8
onemoresoop wrote: post #4

Tired of Crypto hype? Well, it passed. Now they hype is big on AI. Useful things will surely come out of it but before lots of money will be made on hype alone.

There was hype around Crypto because people were making large sums of money from it, despite unclear "real" uses beyond easily moving large sums of money around. There is hype around AI because hundreds of millions of people (including me) are using AI tools every day to help them with their work. In contrast to crypto, random people are not making enormous amounts of money; there are no 18 year olds in AI stumbling…

Just a quibble, but "hundreds of millions of people" seems high by an order of magnitude or two. That would be around 1 in every 20 people in the world.

But this is known. Has OpenAI released usage figures?

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Post by JustBreath »

sosodev wrote: post #9
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

Do you think that other sources are infallible? Almost every source is wrong sometimes. ChatGPT is as good as my professors were in college. They would regularly say things that were just completely incorrect but were knowledgeable and correct often enough to be helpful.

Other sources are fallible as well, but also less likely to make big mistakes and more likely to cover the major pitfalls of a hobby/area of expertise by virtue of actual experience and understanding of the subject matter. (versus statistical probabilities in word choice)

Also ChatGPT has no consistent internal sense of self and is highly sensitive to input. You can convince it that just about anything is true if you aren't careful about how you phrase your input.

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Post by cs02rm0 »

sosodev wrote: post #9
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

Do you think that other sources are infallible? Almost every source is wrong sometimes. ChatGPT is as good as my professors were in college. They would regularly say things that were just completely incorrect but were knowledgeable and correct often enough to be helpful.

Reminds me of people being up in arms when Wikipedia turned up because anyone could contribute. Seems like the same thing is still happening.

Re: The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Post by JustBreath »

sberens wrote: post #8
onemoresoop wrote: post #4

Tired of Crypto hype? Well, it passed. Now they hype is big on AI. Useful things will surely come out of it but before lots of money will be made on hype alone.

There was hype around Crypto because people were making large sums of money from it, despite unclear "real" uses beyond easily moving large sums of money around. There is hype around AI because hundreds of millions of people (including me) are using AI tools every day to help them with their work. In contrast to crypto, random people are not making enormous amounts of money; there are no 18 year olds in AI stumbling…

There's money to back the hype alright, but it resides with businesses/academia/government who are itching to find a way to buy their way into an AI-enabled modernization.

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Post by geraneum »

sosodev wrote: post #9
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

Do you think that other sources are infallible? Almost every source is wrong sometimes. ChatGPT is as good as my professors were in college. They would regularly say things that were just completely incorrect but were knowledgeable and correct often enough to be helpful.

Pilots make mistakes sometimes. I, the bike rider also make mistake sometimes. Therefore I can fly an airplane and I will be as good.

Jokes aside, making mistakes is not a good common factor in order to evaluate if two different systems can be practically interchanged. You need more. What type of mistakes? In what situations, and how to mitigate them. This is a surprisingly common misunderstanding running wild here. You cannot even switch the places of two humans, even two professors in real life using this line of reasoning.

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Post by Jeff_Brown »

macintux wrote: post #5
smithcoin wrote: post #3

> In contrast to AI’s many benefits is the fact that it will displace millions of people around the world from their current workplace roles, especially those in white-collar jobs such as customer service, copywriting, and computer programming. It has already started to do so. Citation needed.

Which part? This was 3 years ago. The tools are much better now. Microsoft 'to replace journalists with robots': https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52860247

The claim might be true but this evidence does not establish it. A company having planned to replace a kind of job with AI is quite distinct from the number of that kind of job falling as a result of AI.

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Post by worrycue »

sosodev wrote: post #9
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

Do you think that other sources are infallible? Almost every source is wrong sometimes. ChatGPT is as good as my professors were in college. They would regularly say things that were just completely incorrect but were knowledgeable and correct often enough to be helpful.

Your professors generally don’t make stuff up if they don’t know something. Your professors are also more likely to catch on if something doesn’t make sense - unlike ChatGPT which can’t seem to reason effectively because most of the time it doesn’t know what’s it’s talking about.*

* Maybe it has the ability to reason, maybe not. Maybe it just needs more information - after all it’s trying to model reality with just the words used to describe it. Or maybe it really can’t reason at all, a limitation of its algorithm, and has to rely on having arguments/explanations already memorised - which seems to be mostly what it does now. Either way so far it hasn’t demonstrated that it’s all that good at reasoning.

Re: The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Post by majormajor »

sosodev wrote: post #9
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

Do you think that other sources are infallible? Almost every source is wrong sometimes. ChatGPT is as good as my professors were in college. They would regularly say things that were just completely incorrect but were knowledgeable and correct often enough to be helpful.

How do you know that ChatGPT is as good as your professors in college? How do you know that they aren't just as good as a cable news pundit? Or a relatively uninformed Reddit commenter?

Re: The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Post by waboremo »

capableweb wrote: post #7
JackFr wrote: post #2

This is terrible. The idea of ChatGPT being able to fill in gaps of not knowing what you don’t know is appealing, but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. This is just spewing pure nonsense, and the author thinks he has learned something from it.

> but you need to actually know something about the topic to evaluate ChatGPTs ability. I don't necessarily think you have to, but you have to be ready to look up further, more trustworthy sources after your discussion with ChatGPT.

People already don't do that with our current tools, what makes anyone believe it will happen with ChatGPT? Especially when they now have to go back to their favorite search engine to find those sources and validate them.

It's as if everyone has forgotten how humans behave, they don't even read or go to actual wikipedia sources that are properly laid out! Nevermind having to go find trustworthy sources.

Re: The Role of AI in Accelerating Skill Development

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Post by qingdao99 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #11
sberens wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was hype around Crypto because people were making large sums of money from it, despite unclear "real" uses beyond easily moving large sums of money around. There is hype around AI because hundreds of millions of people (including me) are using AI tools every day to help them with their work. In contrast to crypto, random people are not making enormous amounts of money; there are no 18 year olds in AI stumbling…

Just a quibble, but "hundreds of millions of people" seems high by an order of magnitude or two. That would be around 1 in every 20 people in the world. But this is known. Has OpenAI released usage figures?

> ChatGPT has more than 100 million users within the first two months of its launch and has more than 13 million daily visitors as of 2023.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-sets-record-faste...

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