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I've been working for 3 years now in a deep tech startup in the agriculture space: we have developed a model, and are running tests with big companies. We rely on a MySQL db for parameters. The core team is me, and 2 of my partners. They are both experts in the field, and don't have much experience with computers, let alone MySQL. Throughout the development of the project, they need to dig into the database to genera…
You should try NocoDB!
I'm sorry but the pricing here is off by like an order of magnitude. This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. Maybe I'm not the target user. Please take this as me trying to help. I think many many other users are thinking this but not saying because they know they will get 500 downvotes. You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). Seems re…
The pricing here is in line with other DB management tools. He's competing with things like Preset (a hosted Apache Superset), DataGrip (JetBrains SQL IDE), and so on.
> You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example).
If you work with data a lot, the answer is a resounding yes. Email, storage and word processing has a larger target market and is actually quite competitive despite Google and Microsoft's large marketshare (LibreOffice, Zoho, Kingsoft, Dropboxish stuff, Proton Mail, etc...)
I've been working for 3 years now in a deep tech startup in the agriculture space: we have developed a model, and are running tests with big companies. We rely on a MySQL db for parameters. The core team is me, and 2 of my partners. They are both experts in the field, and don't have much experience with computers, let alone MySQL. Throughout the development of the project, they need to dig into the database to genera…
Why not start with charging your customers? Just because you don’t doesn’t mean your vendors shouldn’t.
I didn't suggest they shouldn't charge: but if they had a more flexible model, perhaps free for 2 or 3 users (most single-founder startups fail, anyway), with limitations, we would try/use it. And if we did, when we grew we would have it in our work culture already.
I'm sorry but the pricing here is off by like an order of magnitude. This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. Maybe I'm not the target user. Please take this as me trying to help. I think many many other users are thinking this but not saying because they know they will get 500 downvotes. You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). Seems re…
Startups in the very beginning need to find their core customers. If you price too low the voices of hobbyists and unserious people will drown out the voices of your actual customers. If you're not careful that's fatal for your startup.
I'm sorry but the pricing here is off by like an order of magnitude. This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. Maybe I'm not the target user. Please take this as me trying to help. I think many many other users are thinking this but not saying because they know they will get 500 downvotes. You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). Seems re…
> This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. The pricing here is in line with other DB management tools. He's competing with things like Preset (a hosted Apache Superset), DataGrip (JetBrains SQL IDE), and so on. > You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). If you work with data a lot, the answer is a resounding yes. Email, storage and word…
A good response for sure.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. The pricing here is in line with other DB management tools. He's competing with things like Preset (a hosted Apache Superset), DataGrip (JetBrains SQL IDE), and so on. > You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). If you work with data a lot, the answer is a resounding yes. Email, storage and word…
This is strong evidence that I am not the user & the pricing may indeed stack up. A good response for sure.
Looking at DataGrip for example, it's only cost comparable if you want the ultra-comprehensive version for connecting to multiple database types (otherwise it's 3x more expensive).
And DataGrip is clearly only intended for professional DBA's or something close. This is intended to business-users.
There's also going to be crazy price pressure from GPT4 tools in this segment. Like justifying why having a UI is better and why it should be 10x more expensive all at once.
I think there's a systemic issue here: YC strongly advises raising prices, etc. but it's just hit almost a satirical level. (Launch with MVP-ish features, less distribution advantages, but aim for slightly-premium pricing vs the proven competitors with 500 integrations and 10 years of development).
I'm sorry but the pricing here is off by like an order of magnitude. This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. Maybe I'm not the target user. Please take this as me trying to help. I think many many other users are thinking this but not saying because they know they will get 500 downvotes. You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). Seems re…
"Databases are usually locked down to a few team members..." Not true in my experience. True at very large / very mature companies, but at any In that same vein, in a small company environment you don't harass engineers with query requests, you learn SQL . I've seen hundreds of non-technical users do this (and helped many of them), it's not unusual. Visual query-building tools never help. Even good interfaces like Lo…
At $WORK, we give basically every employee a DB role in Postgres, but we use table/row level access control(s) and most can only see their own records, or the records of their employees(if they are a manager). We encourage them to learn SQL(most don't). We also do strong audit/logging controls(essentially pg_audit) so we track every DB change, forever.
Otherwise I completely agree with you that data is almost always quite messy. I can't imagine their EZSQL stuff would work on our data at all. We have tried various other data finding magic stuff, and all of it without fail is basically useless once attached to real data that has lived in the wild for a while(we have data back to the 1990's in our database).
"Databases are usually locked down to a few team members..." Not true in my experience. True at very large / very mature companies, but at any In that same vein, in a small company environment you don't harass engineers with query requests, you learn SQL . I've seen hundreds of non-technical users do this (and helped many of them), it's not unusual. Visual query-building tools never help. Even good interfaces like Lo…
That's a fair comment, If anything them not being locked down makes access to databases easier to connect to Outerbase. I agree that users should learn SQL, even when you use EZQL it returns the actual SQL in a fully-editable IDE that can be modified in whatever way you would want. Do you think that the existing tools out there provide a good environment for those non-technical teams to learn SQL? Maybe I'm biased bu…
I dunno. There are a truly extraordinary number of people I've worked with who query sql by going in to SSMS, object explorer, find table, right click "select top 1000 rows" and then fiddling around with the query to get what they want.
Obviously in some schemas this might be useless, but most often there are views which cover obvious uses.