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Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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There is a startling acceleration of innovation in the field that GPT-4 illustrates. According to NVidia, LLM sizes have been increasing 10X per year for the last few years. This tech is going to hit every aspect of society like a sledgehammer over the next 48 months.

The same was said 10 years ago. It's astonishing what can be done, but you can already see fundamental limits. I think it will raise productivity for some tasks, but not fundamentally change society.

Can you elaborate on fundamental limits?

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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post #11

I've asked ChatGPT to write an ode to the beer. This was the result: An ode to the frothy brew, The one that's crisp and true, A beer that's cool and light, The perfect drink for a summer's night. With every sip, a burst of hops, A refreshing taste that never stops, The gentle fizz, the golden hue, A symphony of flavors brewed just for you. Whether you're at a party or alone, A refreshing beer is like coming home, It…

I asked GPT-4 to take this ode and make it rhyme better, and to make it more clever and beautiful: A sonnet to the effervescent ale, The potion crisp, sincere, and hale, A quaff that's chilled and full of light, The ambrosia for a summer's twilight. With every draught, a surge of hop, A zestful taste that will not stop, The subtle fizz, the amber glow, A panoply of notes that flow. In festive throngs or solitaire, A…

I read that with a British accent and was delighted when I reached this line:

"In festive throngs or solitaire, A bracing brew brings comfort there, It's known and soothing, mending, clear, A balm for hearts, a joy austere."

Reminded me of a way historians find out how written text was spoken (namely by looking at what supposedly rhymes or onomatopoeic words and letters).

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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There is a startling acceleration of innovation in the field that GPT-4 illustrates. According to NVidia, LLM sizes have been increasing 10X per year for the last few years. This tech is going to hit every aspect of society like a sledgehammer over the next 48 months.

I guess you perception of society is severely limited if you think a fancy autocomplete is capable of changing every aspect of it.

I have fun on these HN chats responding to comments like yours .

It’s just fancy auto complete to you? You honestly can’t see the capability it has and extend it the future?

What’s that saying about “it’s hard to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on their not understanding it”.

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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post #11

I've asked ChatGPT to write an ode to the beer. This was the result: An ode to the frothy brew, The one that's crisp and true, A beer that's cool and light, The perfect drink for a summer's night. With every sip, a burst of hops, A refreshing taste that never stops, The gentle fizz, the golden hue, A symphony of flavors brewed just for you. Whether you're at a party or alone, A refreshing beer is like coming home, It…

I asked GPT-4 to take this ode and make it rhyme better, and to make it more clever and beautiful: A sonnet to the effervescent ale, The potion crisp, sincere, and hale, A quaff that's chilled and full of light, The ambrosia for a summer's twilight. With every draught, a surge of hop, A zestful taste that will not stop, The subtle fizz, the amber glow, A panoply of notes that flow. In festive throngs or solitaire, A…

  Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go
  To heal my heart and drown my woe.
  Rain may fall and wind may blow,
  And many miles be still to go,
  But under a tall tree I will lie,
  And let the clouds go sailing by.

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am excited to live inside my anime Haram hentai

We all are. Some want porn of Emma Watson, some want porn of werewolves and some just want to see porn of their ex. And soon we are all gonna get what we want. That‘s the silver lining to the massive job destruction that is to come.

Well, it seems like the answer to what to do with all the useless people. Some had said drugs and video games, but I’m sure that custom VR porn dens will work too.

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked GPT-4 to take this ode and make it rhyme better, and to make it more clever and beautiful: A sonnet to the effervescent ale, The potion crisp, sincere, and hale, A quaff that's chilled and full of light, The ambrosia for a summer's twilight. With every draught, a surge of hop, A zestful taste that will not stop, The subtle fizz, the amber glow, A panoply of notes that flow. In festive throngs or solitaire, A…

I read that with a British accent and was delighted when I reached this line: "In festive throngs or solitaire, A bracing brew brings comfort there, It's known and soothing, mending, clear, A balm for hearts, a joy austere." Reminded me of a way historians find out how written text was spoken (namely by looking at what supposedly rhymes or onomatopoeic words and letters).

You'll enjoy this AI generated spoken version: https://on.soundcloud.com/1tHgY

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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So they quote an expert who says there's a distinction between bona fide novel structures and states, versus statistical heuristics that benefit from the scaling. Meanwhile, yet people claim ChatGPT has learned this or that capability, and it is true "by inspection".

Recent findings like these suggest at least two possibilities for why emergence occurs, said Ellie Pavlick, a computer scientist at Brown University who studies computational models of language. One is that, as suggested by comparisons to biological systems, larger models truly do gain new abilities spontaneously. “It may very well be that the model has learned something fundamentally new and different that it didn’t have at a smaller size,” she said. “That’s what we’re all hoping is the case, that there’s some fundamental shift that happens when models are scaled up.”

The other, less sensational possibility, she said, is that what appears to be emergent may instead be the culmination of an internal, statistics-driven process that works through chain-of-thought-type reasoning. Large LLMs may simply be learning heuristics that are out of reach for those with fewer parameters or lower-quality data.

But, she said, finding out which of those explanations is more likely hinges on a better understanding of how LLMs work at all. “Since we don’t know how they work under the hood, we can’t say which of those things is happening.”

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all are. Some want porn of Emma Watson, some want porn of werewolves and some just want to see porn of their ex. And soon we are all gonna get what we want. That‘s the silver lining to the massive job destruction that is to come.

Well, it seems like the answer to what to do with all the useless people. Some had said drugs and video games, but I’m sure that custom VR porn dens will work too.

Give me some beer and custom porn. I will still find some time to come to HN and remember the times when programmers were useful.

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

#29

This caught my attention as I found it implausible: > One DeepMind engineer even reported being able to convince ChatGPT that it was a Linux terminal and getting it to run some simple mathematical code to compute the first 10 prime numbers. Remarkably, it could finish the task faster than the same code running on a real Linux machine. Following the link, there's a screenshot to a screenshot [0] of a code-golf solutio…

So on the one hand, these newly publicized models can render convincing representations of realities we used to get from deterministic processes. On the other hand, it's probabilistic and fails to conform to logic quite often, and in a confident way.

We're building systems capable of programing computers non-deterministically. I think this is huge. But not because ChatGPT23 will be a CEO or a politician. But because this is a paradigm shift in compute similar to moving from integrator machines to general computers. I don't think LLMs will make programmers obsolete. I think large enough models will make programming something completely different from what it is now.

The days of sequencing tokens for compilers/interpreters seem to be drawing to an end as the dominant way of specifying software products.

Re: Unpredictable abilities emerging from large AI models

#30
I'm still convinced I'll be able to get GPT4 to solve all these difficult problems for me that I'm having trouble solving on my own. So far it hasn't been so great at doing it, but it's fun to at least try.

For context I'm trying to get it to help me learn how to implement scalable multiplayer game servers in NodeJS. It's a tough code organization problem, it becomes a tough system design problem as well the bigger your game gets. I'm just simply not experienced enough at that specific stuff.

I'd also like to use it to help me learn all the technology I haven't learned since becoming disabled 5 years ago, like React Redux Material-UI and more.

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