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Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#261
What the government needs to do is to say that all AI-generated content is CC-SA 4.0 or GFDL and all the code is AGPL . That oughta do it.

(edit: I put "CC-BY-SA" and then I remembered there's no need to give credit to a hunk of sand and electrons!)

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's possible that some generous person determines a sequence of prompts that generate, say novels, and then pipes these prompts into a program causing thousands or even millions of wholly varied novels to be generated in the public domain. I imagine this is what the OP meant.

I've been changing my mind a lot on AI these past few weeks. I don't think the price is what stops most people from reading books. People already have access to countless works they don't have time to read, adding a bunch of soulless ones to this seems like it won't change much.

What can change is that people can get more of exactly what they like. In which case many might well put up with imperfect continuations, and the AI will have material to mimic.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but that assumes people are honest about the providence of their content and let you know up front that it was produced by an Ai and is thus not protected by copyright… and given the preponderance of copyright info in website footers, I expect this will be an error of omission rather than actively claiming incorrectly. By simply not giving individual articles a more specific copyright note mentioning the AI all…

People might not be honest. But large organizations, oh boy. There's zero way Disney will want any chance for their materials to not be copyrightable. If the Copyright office's view on this stands, there will be no great disruption of the employability of creatives.

Why can’t the Disney creatives simply lie and use the AI to ideate and produce drafts that they touch up and pass off as their own? Seems totally rational.

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> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

> Instead, these prompts function more like instructions to a commissioned artist—they identify what the prompter wishes to have depicted, but the machine determines how those instructions are implemented in its output.

If you commission an artist, the produced result becomes yours and you own copyright on it. How different is it with AI?

The AI did not creatively decide to do something. An order was placed, it fulfilled it, and ownership was transferred.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but that assumes people are honest about the providence of their content and let you know up front that it was produced by an Ai and is thus not protected by copyright… and given the preponderance of copyright info in website footers, I expect this will be an error of omission rather than actively claiming incorrectly. By simply not giving individual articles a more specific copyright note mentioning the AI all…

People might not be honest. But large organizations, oh boy. There's zero way Disney will want any chance for their materials to not be copyrightable. If the Copyright office's view on this stands, there will be no great disruption of the employability of creatives.

> There's zero way Disney will want any chance for their materials to not be copyrightable.

Surely you can see how easy it is around this? Even if it was a "prompt" that originated the design of a Disney character, they wouldn't try to get a copyright on that.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#266

> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

I noticed this as well. The implication to generated code is pretty astounding tho. What about all those (c) foo 2023 prologs you see all over the place? Will there be arguments that specific lines weren’t written by a human so therefore the entirety the claim isn’t valid? Or will there be refactors to push generated code out to a well known path or construct (akin to a header / implementation or some such)? And on t…

As per this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35192038, I reckon the whole is “creative enough” and would be protected as the developer only used parts and cherry picked and combined what they needed.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#267

> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

> Instead, these prompts function more like instructions to a commissioned artist—they identify what the prompter wishes to have depicted, but the machine determines how those instructions are implemented in its output. If you commission an artist, the produced result becomes yours and you own copyright on it. How different is it with AI? The AI did not creatively decide to do something. An order was placed, it fulfi…

Because when you commission someone _they initially get copyright_ and then assign it to you.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#269

Unpopular opinion : the government shouldn’t protect your art from getting used as training data. The government shouldn’t protect your generated art from being copied. Intellectual property is not real property. Nothing is being taken from you. Force is only justified in response to force, and you don’t get the right to throw someone in jail for “stealing” something you still have.

Do you also agree that government should not enforce if I borrow your bike while you are not using it if I return it? If not how is that different? You still have the bike and you werent using it while I borrowed it - you just didn’t know I was borrowing it

Probably doesnt mind that entire countries have built their economic models around copying ip and selling copycat products.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

#270

> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

I wonder how this will apply to code that comes out of systems like copilot?
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