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Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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And how close is too close?

You can get ChatGPT to output copyright material very easily

You can get ChatGPT to output copyright material very easily.

You can also copy and paste from an existing copyrighted work.

In either case, it is you, the human - with agency to do so - who should be liable for the content that you publish.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Don't overlook the fact that agencies like the USCO are at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of determining stuff like this. They move first because they're on the front lines, as it were, but they can be overruled by the courts and the courts can be overruled by congress. 100% this will be litigated and likely altered in the coming months/years.

It's more complex than a straightforward totem pole. (For example, you could look into Chevron deference)

It's the part of the bottom of the totem pole that moves first because it's on the front lines.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Careful! I’ve always felt that, as written, copyright should not apply to most software. Since only creative expressions may be copyrighted and functional expressions are not copyrightable, it’s very hard to match up the copyrightable portions of software with those that are not. Requiring a declaration of what parts are and are not copyrightable for software would be a major shift in policy and require major changes…

Not advocating copyrightable software, but it seems clear to me that if databases are copyrightable because they represent curation, then software must be too. Any line of code, probably not. But a program as a whole, sure. Otherwise I think you blow up music copyrights too, since a single note isn’t copyrightable and a song is just a bunch of individual notes. At some point, choosing, ordering, and organizing a coll…

While not so in other jurisdictions, databases are not copyrightable in the US. That was true when I last read Groklaw at least.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Not advocating copyrightable software, but it seems clear to me that if databases are copyrightable because they represent curation, then software must be too. Any line of code, probably not. But a program as a whole, sure. Otherwise I think you blow up music copyrights too, since a single note isn’t copyrightable and a song is just a bunch of individual notes. At some point, choosing, ordering, and organizing a coll…

I think the open question is whether software is in the realm of patents or of copyrights. It's not unreasonable to suggest the former, since software is kind of like a widget that does stuff, except virtualizing the "widget" part to run on a generic widget of sorts. Copyrights traditionally applied to works that you would consider "artistic" rather than "inventions." What you're suggesting, about a minimal work, is…

It’s neither, it doesn’t fit. Chip masks are another whole branch of IP law. As strange as it sounds, they are a bit like two sides of the same coin.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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Not advocating copyrightable software, but it seems clear to me that if databases are copyrightable because they represent curation, then software must be too. Any line of code, probably not. But a program as a whole, sure. Otherwise I think you blow up music copyrights too, since a single note isn’t copyrightable and a song is just a bunch of individual notes. At some point, choosing, ordering, and organizing a coll…

I think the open question is whether software is in the realm of patents or of copyrights. It's not unreasonable to suggest the former, since software is kind of like a widget that does stuff, except virtualizing the "widget" part to run on a generic widget of sorts. Copyrights traditionally applied to works that you would consider "artistic" rather than "inventions." What you're suggesting, about a minimal work, is…

Software alone is not patentable. You get around that by patenting a system.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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post #141

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You can get ChatGPT to output copyright material very easily

You can get ChatGPT to output copyright material very easily. You can also copy and paste from an existing copyrighted work. In either case, it is you, the human - with agency to do so - who should be liable for the content that you publish.

That’s the concern. You can easily identify when you are copying others work when done directly. If you use a black box that sometimes gives you infringing output, how do you use it with confidence?

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

What's the difference between this and a corporation owning the work of an employee?

The difference is that the employee is a person.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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I think the open question is whether software is in the realm of patents or of copyrights. It's not unreasonable to suggest the former, since software is kind of like a widget that does stuff, except virtualizing the "widget" part to run on a generic widget of sorts. Copyrights traditionally applied to works that you would consider "artistic" rather than "inventions." What you're suggesting, about a minimal work, is…

Aren’t dry, non-fiction books copyrightable? I don’t think “creative” necessarily means “artistic”, just making something where there was nothing. It’s hard for me to see a software program as a whole as uncreative in the same way logarithm tables are. I agree it’s a complex are with no easy answer. But I really think that software, like words and notes and numbers, scales from the generic and unprotectable to the hi…

The expression can be as dry as a desert. Is the result an act of creativity? The bar is pretty low.

Say you had a book that listed the price of eggs over 100 years. You introduced each chapter, perhaps describing the egg market at the time, etc.

The book is copyrightable though lists of egg prices aren’t. Maps are another fun case for copyright.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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> If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it. > For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's un…

> But the technology will decide the rhyming pattern, the words in each line, and the structure of the text. But what if the prompter then takes the AI text, changes some of the rhymes, perhaps adds a word here or there, does it suddenly come back under copyright.

Let's take it to the extreme - if you randomly outputted noise as a picture, that picture is not copyrightable (or ditto with random letters/numbers and printed it as a book).

It feels to me that the copyright office is using this similar line of logic, to make the claim that the resultant work is not copyrightable if it was wholly generated using _only_ a prompt and an AI.

Re: Copyright Registration Guidance: Works containing material generated by AI

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I’m curious. If I’ve spent 8 hours getting the perfect prompt, fine tuning a few LORAs, mixing them, choosing between 8 different checkpointed stable diffusion models, and have done a bunch of in painting, does this constitute a copyrightable work? Certainly a lot of artistic vision and effort to get to the finished “work”.

the OP doesnt include any exceptions based on effort, so no.
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