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YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by gambiting »

mellosouls wrote: post #37

YouTube (Premium) subscription pricing stinks if you're outside the US as well. You're ripped off on what feels like a nationalistic basis. Eg. Last time I looked the annual option which saves money over the monthly wasn't available in the UK and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous. I was on a cheap trial but cancelled on principle when I ch…

You just find 4 friends to share it with, then get the family plan for £17.99 - works out at around £4.40/person/month. And yes I agree it's not a good value for the individual membership at £11.99/month.

Also:

>>and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous.

No, you're forgetting that the British price includes 20% VAT and the American one doesn't include taxes. The cost is literally the same once you add the VAT(12 usd = 10GBP, add 20% vat = 12GBP)

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Post by cameronh90 »

mellosouls wrote: post #37

YouTube (Premium) subscription pricing stinks if you're outside the US as well. You're ripped off on what feels like a nationalistic basis. Eg. Last time I looked the annual option which saves money over the monthly wasn't available in the UK and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous. I was on a cheap trial but cancelled on principle when I ch…

$12 is £9.91. Add 20% VAT to that and you get £11.89.

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by cronix »

pdntspa wrote: post #40

This isn't entirely relevant, but I just want to say I am sick of our society's obsessive fascination with TV. It's solitary, sedentary, and passive. And then we bitch and complain when the people cracking this whip make it more obnoxious, more expensive, and even less entertaining. Every show feels the same. The actors seem interchangeable. There's such a limited subset of permitted stories and things that can be sa…

> Play a videogame

> Stop worshipping TV and movies and entertainment

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by godtoldmetodoit »

whartung wrote: post #24
commiepatrol wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*legally. There are plenty of ways to watch live HD sports.

Our TV bill just went up and I'm debating exploring YT TV. What I want is the main Sports Networks (FS1, FS2, ESPN, ESPN2), my Regional Sports Network (but that's a Bally channel now -- and that's kind of a bit of a mess at the moment), and MLB TV (the cable channel, not their own MLB service). I also want "DVR" for everything, and I want to be able to skip the ads (ideally with a +30s button). I typically watch my g…

YT TV DVR is best in class in my experience. You can set it to record every NCAA men's basketball game that ever airs if you want, or just your team etc.

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by mellosouls »

gambiting wrote: post #41
mellosouls wrote: post #37

YouTube (Premium) subscription pricing stinks if you're outside the US as well. You're ripped off on what feels like a nationalistic basis. Eg. Last time I looked the annual option which saves money over the monthly wasn't available in the UK and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous. I was on a cheap trial but cancelled on principle when I ch…

You just find 4 friends to share it with, then get the family plan for £17.99 - works out at around £4.40/person/month. And yes I agree it's not a good value for the individual membership at £11.99/month. Also: >>and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous. No, you're forgetting that the British price includes 20% VAT and the American one doesn'…

Thanks for the tip though my real frustration is the second-class service due to being foreign or something.

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by pdntspa »

cronix wrote: post #43
pdntspa wrote: post #40

This isn't entirely relevant, but I just want to say I am sick of our society's obsessive fascination with TV. It's solitary, sedentary, and passive. And then we bitch and complain when the people cracking this whip make it more obnoxious, more expensive, and even less entertaining. Every show feels the same. The actors seem interchangeable. There's such a limited subset of permitted stories and things that can be sa…

> Play a videogame > Stop worshipping TV and movies and entertainment

Well, ok then, I guess anything entertaining is off limits. Is that the bad-faith argument you are making?

Maybe I should have rephrased that to 'passive' entertainment.

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by social_quotient »

adrianmonk wrote: post #6

The last price increase raised it to $64.99. That happened on June 30, 2020 ( https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/youtube-tv-update/ ). Let's put that into the BLS CPI Inflation Calculator ( https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm ). Results: "$64.99 in June 2020 has the same buying power as $75.84 in February 2023". So this doesn't quite keep up with inflation.

Why should it if technology is inherently deflationary?

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by mellosouls »

cameronh90 wrote: post #42
mellosouls wrote: post #37

YouTube (Premium) subscription pricing stinks if you're outside the US as well. You're ripped off on what feels like a nationalistic basis. Eg. Last time I looked the annual option which saves money over the monthly wasn't available in the UK and the monthly was the same number despite the currency differences. ie $11.99 per month against £11.99. Outrageous. I was on a cheap trial but cancelled on principle when I ch…

$12 is £9.91. Add 20% VAT to that and you get £11.89.

Thanks, that sounds plausible but differs from some other digital providers so I'm not convinced; the annual option missing as well indicates a different approach.

Re: YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

I subscribed when YouTube TV first came out in 2017, for $35/mo. It was a good deal at the time and well worth it (since I didn't have cable), even though I didn't watch much regularly scheduled TV. When it hit $50/mo it wasn't a good deal anymore. Doesn't matter they added a ton of new channels because most of what is there is stuff no one (in my household) watches. This was the problem with cable, I don't want to pay $100/mo for 3 channels.

In the last few years there has been a fairly consistent drama of "Will they or won't they" related to channels. Seems like Google likes to play hardball with the channel providers and just causes a headache for the subscribers.

I'm not going to say this price hike is the straw that broke the camels back, because our house really didn't use YouTube TV regularly enough to warrant the price previously. But it was a good reminder to cancel the service, so I have.

Right now I can upgrade my cable internet provider (sadly the only high speed option right now) to add "Preferred TV" (aka ALL the channels) for only an additional $63/mo more than what I'm currently paying for just internet.

So yes, YouTube TV is more expensive than cable now.

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