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Post by nemothekid »

wpm wrote: post #195
nemothekid wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 Most of the comments on Twitch strike me as pretty weird. If I look at Twitch their problem is that, as a business, they never really broke out of their gaming niche. It's strange to suggest that Twitch should have catered more to the audience that they had already captured. Not to say that there's anything wrong with that, but for a company that took…

Gaming niche? "Just Chatting" is far and away the most popular category right now; ~100K more viewers than GTA V (most of which is GTA:O and RPing).

Not sure what point you are trying make.

1. The top 3 gaming categories eclipse Just Chatting; and there are hundreds of gaming categories on Twitch

2. Most Just Chatting creators are gaming creators. There are exceptions (KaiCenant, Hasanabi, various female streamers); but the site is still geared toward gaming.

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Post by timr »

notbuyingit wrote: post #210
misssocrates wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so? There's no evidence for that with respect to respiratory viruses. > Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes li…

And googling the key line there reveals a full page of Google results with articles explaining how both the initial assumptions and methodology was flawed. It was surprising even to me how easy it was to find rebuttals. https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-masks-reduce-risk-spre... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks-work-cochra... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/16/cochrane-... At least…

Speaking as someone who actually has an advanced degree in science and understands how to read papers and interpret medical evidence (unlike Tufecki, who has literally zero scientific training or understanding of statistics) has read ~every paper on masks ever published, the "rebuttals" there are nonsense.

The Cochrane review was not incorrect; it was not retracted. The "apology from Cochrane" was not about the paper itself, and they didn't say that the conclusions were wrong. The NY Times and the Washington Post and Gavi are just wrong, and they're lying. Full stop. By literally the same standards of evidence they are using ("the lower bound of the confidence interval crosses 1.0, so we can't exclude the possibility of benefit"), Ivermectin and HCQ "work" against Covid. So you either accept both claims, or you reject both.

We have two political teams, each advancing separate-but-equal forms of pseudo-sciencey twaddle, and neither side is willing to admit that the actual data doesn't back their opinions:

https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/the-cochrane-mask-fiasco

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Post by thinkingemote »

skilled wrote: post #83

I've been a Twitch user since its first year. I have a select few streamers I watch, and I spend more time on the platform when there are new releases for games I personally like. But, I have been very in-tune with Twitch culture and I know how disorganized it is when it comes to "big" streamers. However, my issue (and also disappointment) with Twitch right now is: - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally,…

I can recommend the unwanted twitch extension which allows a user to hide selected channels, entire games and tags. https://github.com/kwaschny/unwanted-twitch

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Post by Sebb767 »

ryandrake wrote: post #144
teachrdan wrote: post #79

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> for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities CEOs are not a lot of people. By definition they are extremely few in number, and those who become CEOs of top companies have a perhaps pathological drive to get there. For someone like that, an entirely predictable event -- like the birth of a child -- is the last thing that would make them sacrifice the position they've worked so hard fo…

I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million. Maybe that's why we're all not that person. Even if you're the most single-minded, driven person ever, once you get that much wealth you've pretty much won the game. You did it, you're done. The show's over. It's like continuing to play your Civilization game for "Just... One... More... Turn..." after…

> I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million.

Most people reading this site are in the 1% of the world and could easily retire to a lower cost of living area right now or after a few years of saving. They usually don't: Firstly, because the drive that gets you to earn that kind of money also keeps you going. If you're used to and can handle 80 hour weeks, going to 0 is likely to make you feel unfulfilled quite fast (which is also why I don't fully buy the child story). Secondly, you always judge yourself in regards your friend group, and usually quite badly. This might seem absurd to us, but they might be looking at their friends with private jets, yachts and paintings valued more than their total net worth and not feel like they are at the top.

There are exception, of course, but I doubt you'll find many of them in the extreme environments at the top of the business hierarchy.

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Post by elicash »

thenerdhead wrote: post #207
elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

What's wrong with that? Working since 2006 watching some dude named Justin livestream his life to what it has become is quite an accomplishment that seems justified for an early retirement?

Why would you possibly think I'm against this?

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Post by notbuyingit »

timr wrote: post #212
notbuyingit wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And googling the key line there reveals a full page of Google results with articles explaining how both the initial assumptions and methodology was flawed. It was surprising even to me how easy it was to find rebuttals. https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-masks-reduce-risk-spre... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks-work-cochra... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/16/cochrane-... At least…

Speaking as someone who actually has an advanced degree in science and understands how to read papers and interpret medical evidence ( unlike Tufecki, who has literally zero scientific training or understanding of statistics) has read ~every paper on masks ever published, the "rebuttals" there are nonsense. The Cochrane review was not incorrect; it was not retracted. The "apology from Cochrane" was not about the pape…

Gonna go with "wearing a mask to stop particulate spread" is not separate but equal from taking horse dewormer. (And it's not an exaggeration to characterize it as such when they're literally buying drugs from farm suplly stores and injecting amounts meant for livestock over the course of a few days.)

Similarly, I don't know anyone who has died from wearing a mask.

This is not even to mention the numerous other studies, experiments, and demsonstartsions of all sorts of respiratory protective gear that show effectiveness against particulates smaller even than COVID-19.

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Post by Manuel_D »

notbuyingit wrote: post #210
misssocrates wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so? There's no evidence for that with respect to respiratory viruses. > Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes li…

And googling the key line there reveals a full page of Google results with articles explaining how both the initial assumptions and methodology was flawed. It was surprising even to me how easy it was to find rebuttals. https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-masks-reduce-risk-spre... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks-work-cochra... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/16/cochrane-... At least…

As per your first link, rate of infection with masks was 90% the rate of infection without masks. I mean, technically it "works" even if reduces the rates of infection by 0.0000001%. But most people are not going to see much benefit in masking if it only reduces the rate marginally.

The intensity of the push for masking was not at all matched by the effectiveness of masking. From most people's perspectives, if the rate of infection with masking is 90% the rate with no masking then masking doesn't work in layperson's terms.

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Post by SpaceManNabs »

mrguyorama wrote: post #153
skilled wrote: post #83

I've been a Twitch user since its first year. I have a select few streamers I watch, and I spend more time on the platform when there are new releases for games I personally like. But, I have been very in-tune with Twitch culture and I know how disorganized it is when it comes to "big" streamers. However, my issue (and also disappointment) with Twitch right now is: - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally,…

Twitch will never stop the softcore porn because it's a huge source of revenue and they DGAF that they are serving softcore porn to teens. Honestly I don't care that teens watch cammers or porn, but it's toxic to the platform to have it share the same site, and that also allows payment to be shared and basically makes it way easier for kids to pay cammers, which is super weird IMO. I also really dislike the encourage…

Twitch walked so that onlyfans could run.

not even a joke. a lot of OF performers use their twitch as a marketting arm.

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Post by hbn »

enlyth wrote: post #173
atsjie wrote: post #156

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The comments and community feeling in Youtube streaming sucks. Ludwig who made the switch a year ago from Twitch to Youtube said that was his biggest nuisance with Youtube, and I agree. I stopped watching him because of it since there's more fun to be had on Twitch. Twitch is more like a bunch of monkeys which is fun and builds hype. Youtube is too serious and the chat is too slow for the streamer to properly interac…

Something about Twitch chat is magical, even though it is commonly just walls of copypasta, it feels like participating in a real, authentic audience. Often times it is more entertaining that the stream itself, just like on HN you would rush to the comments before even reading TFA to see what other people are saying. I can't quite pinpoint why YouTube doesn't have the same feeling though.

Well for one thing Twitch has the advantage of being primarily gaming-focused, whereas YouTube is at its core a generic video host with no particular focus.

But YouTube has also completely destroyed their entire concept of having a "YouTube community" over the years. There might be something of various creator communities in various niches, but the heavy censorship, mess of a comments section that does everything in its power to halt any form of conversation, leaving only spam and idiots in most comment sections, etc. left it with nothing of a community, or any real creator/consumer dynamic.

YouTube no longer has private nor direct messages, so if people want to communicate they have to do it on another platform. It's also just a bit of a mess with the transition from the original idea of "everyone has an anonymous handle" to "every must have their Google+ profile linked and use their real name" to "Google+ is dead and now some people have silly handles and some people are real people." The whole thing adds up to make for a place with no coherent community.

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