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Post by valarauko »

toyg wrote: post #222
mejutoco wrote: post #208

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IMO the problem of Netflix is not how the split the shows or their duration, but their quality.

Yeah, I think that's the real issue. People complain about 6 episodes not being enough, but the truth is that a lot of those 6-8 episodes now feels like filler - probably because some constraints (ad cuts on scenes...) have disappeared, so writers feel emboldened. Not everything can be The Wire.

I have a friend who's written Netflix original shows, and I'll say it's the opposite - Netflix has very specific instructions for how scripts must be structured based on viewership data. Netflix knows where people tend to pause, and where viewership tends to fall off, and have formulated guidelines for scripts to counter it. They require scripts to conform to their requirements - add a plot twist in episode 2 at the 60% mark, for example. The primary character should occupy 60% of episode 1, and 40% of episode 2, and so on.

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Post by jacooper »

dev_daftly wrote: post #170
jacooper wrote: post #85

Now watch apple trigger red alerts in Google's and Samsung's HQ by releasing their AR glasses. As much as i hate Apple products, I can't deny that most of the time they are the leaders and the rest are just copies.

Leaders when they are releasing ar glasses well after other major players have? Microsoft will be on their third iteration by the time Apple releases theirs.

Mainstream leader*

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Post by layer8 »

valarauko wrote: post #238
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #224

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> So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is just starting True Detective season one: 8 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years. Mare of Easttown: 7 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years If you make actual stories instead of trying to create ongoing scenarios, you can hit it out of the park in less than 10 episodes.

A friend who's written Netflix original shows says that Netflix has a lot of data regarding user watch behavior, and provide specific directions for how shows should be structured to maximize viewer retention. As a theoretical example, they know people tend to lose interest around 60% mark in episode 2, so that's where you have to insert a plot twist.

The result is shows that keep your interest just barely enough for you to keep watching …until you grow even tired of that.

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Post by autoexec »

dragonwriter wrote: post #221
phpisthebest wrote: post #185

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2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Most Broadcast shows run 20-24 Episodes per Season. Netflix is 10 at the most, some 6 episodes. per "season" That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt and why people do not want to invest time in them. it is hard to tell a compelling story in 6 episodes of TV. So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is…

> 2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Yes, most streaming-first platforms use shorter seasons than is typical for US broadcast (but that was also often true of US cable, and is also true of, e.g., British broadcast.) > That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt Mid-season, especially first-season, cancellations on broadcast have always been a thing (a…

> Mid-season, especially first-season, cancellations on broadcast have always been a thing

A TV or cable network canceling a show is very different from netflix doing it though. When a network cancels a show mid-season fans get pissed but the network removes that show from broadcast and replaces it with shows that do get full seasons and proper endings.

When netflix puts out an unfinished product by starting a show and then not finishing it, the fans get pissed, and it just sits like a giant turd in their library so that month after month and year after year more and more people will start the show, get to where it cuts off and also get angry that netflix wasted their time.

Even if a netflix show seems to under-perform, it's in netflix's best interest to make sure every story has some kind of conclusion because some percentage of subscribers will still be able to find value in it. A finished product is a win for their library.

Otherwise the unfinished show will just sit on their servers being forever unwatched by anyone aware that Netflix screwed the show's fans, or it becomes a trap that will only make anyone who does start it angry at netflix.

Netflix should either just commit to concluding any show they start, or remove any shows that get left without a conclusion from their library entirely (throwing away all of the money they invested)

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Post by JohnFen »

bruce511 wrote: post #53
xorcist wrote: post #43

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> Support shiny thing -> it's not difficult, everyone can do it Sometimes people say those things, but I can't understand for whom it rings true. What's especially hard about new things? Maintenance on the other hand, can be much more tricky. Especially when taking backwards compatibility in mind you really have to think about every step going forward. It's much easier to build a brand new highway than repairing an e…

You're right, support is difficult. But there's no "glory" in support. there's glory in making something new, everyone being amazed, world-is-changed-forever. Of course that is pretty much 1% of the journey. Turning that light-bulb moment into an actual product, getting mass market adoption, finding the killer app, that's hard. And anonymous. Keeping customers happy is hard. But again, anonymous. Are you more impress…

> Are you more impressed with a CV that says "invented iphone" or one that says "worked on iphone 2 to make it better than iphone 1"? Or worse yet "accumulated customer feedback to improve iphone 1, worked with team developing iphone 2"?

None of those are impressive in isolation, honestly. What's impressive isn't what product you worked on, but how well you worked on the team, how well you technically performed, and whether the skills you were using are relevant to the position you're applying for.

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Post by JohnFen »

throwaw12 wrote: post #139
xorcist wrote: post #43

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> Support shiny thing -> it's not difficult, everyone can do it Sometimes people say those things, but I can't understand for whom it rings true. What's especially hard about new things? Maintenance on the other hand, can be much more tricky. Especially when taking backwards compatibility in mind you really have to think about every step going forward. It's much easier to build a brand new highway than repairing an e…

> What's especially hard about new things? Because it doesn't exist yet, you need to investigate previous approaches/research, come up with architecture/design, evaluate pros/cons, hardware requirements, staffing and so on. When things become clear, it is easy to build it. Support is harder in the sense that it takes a lot of time and digging into the platform to understand how can you solve it, but for a small gain…

I think there's a personality aspect to it as well.

I've noticed that some programmers live for the front-end of a project. When you have a clean slate, are doing design, developing the data structures, approaches, all of that creative stuff. By the time the project is mature and the big problems have been resolved, they tire of it and want to move on to another new thing.

But there are others who hate that front-end stuff. They love taking a mature product and maintaining it. Debugging, adding new features, etc.

A successful product absolutely requires both kinds of people. A company who devalues one or the other is a company that is shooting itself in the foot.

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Post by charcircuit »

ozten wrote: post #206
charcircuit wrote: post #194

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I'm sorry, but glasses style augmented reality is already possible. 50 years is even too long of a time span for when AR glasses are attractive enough to the general public enough to reach >1B users.

A line of text floating in your view is doable. Seeing 3D renderings in a dark environment with 30 minutes of battery is doable. The original vision of augmenting human vision without a bunch of caveats and limitations is not doable today. Spectacles by Snap is a cool accomplishment, but mostly the form factor is useful for recording video form a human's perspective and not augmenting one's vision.

You can do world locked 3D renderings in an lit inside room and have more a few hours of battery life. Yes here are limitations, but all technology has limitations. As time passes we will make them better and better. There is a bar we will have to pass before they become attractive to regular people and I'm not claiming we are there yet.

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Post by lynx23 »

dev_daftly wrote: post #166
dgrin91 wrote: post #134

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Google Car as in Waymo? Isn't that still growing and getting expanded? Obviously self driving is harder than everyone thought, but its not abandoned by any means.

I still don't understand why everybody thought self-driving was so easy. It was clearly always going to be decades, not years for them to be ready for the mass market but so many people were acting like normal cars were already obsolete.

As far as I understand it, "everybody" was manipulated into thinking it is around the corner by media babbling about the new exciting developments from high profile companies like Google. It rememeber that time quite vividly. It was around 2014, when my not-so-tech-informed friends started to tell me that in a few years, I will be able to own a self-driving car, me being blind and all that. I was telling everyone that they have been over-stimulated by media, and they mostly didn't want to believe me, because, you know, it is so much easier to believe the latest hype...

And now, roughly 10 years later, there is no real self-driving car in sight, which is a good thing IMO.

To me, it looked like Google and other SV companies were using the media to hype up the self-driving car thing to get VC money for these projects, which are obviously long term, that is where we agree....

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Post by lynx23 »

charcircuit wrote: post #197
devrand wrote: post #90

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Isn’t that exactly not the case here? This product existed for over a decade.

The Glass Enterprise Edition 2 came out in 2019.

I must have missed that, me not being a company and all that.

All I remember was a lot of glass hype, followed by the message that Google has actually stopped selling glass for "normal" customers...

So at least in my world, the pattern still fits.

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