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Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by burcs »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #26
burcs wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great point — I love the idea of creators vs viewers. We are looking into building out a view-only mode that would be much more affordable. Potentially even embedded experiences so you could share reports internally without needing to actually log into Outerbase. Would that solve your use case?

> Potentially even embedded experiences so you could share reports internally without needing to actually log into Outerbase. Not OP, but this reminds me of Heroku Dataclips and I think you should strongly consider such a product feature. https://blog.heroku.com/how-dataclips-power-insights-at-hero... EDIT: Tremendous! Thanks for the reply!

One of our founding developers may or may not have helped build that out at Heroku hahaha. Definitely on the roadmap!

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by typosaur »

brayden_wilmoth wrote: post #10
debarshri wrote: post #8

Hey guys. I am not sure but you might have a security issue or a bug where in anyone can access the database page without login [1]. It give me link to logout and stuff but keeps through errors. UI breaks here too when click on members [2] [1] https://app.outerbase.com/databases [2] https://app.outerbase.com/settings

Thanks for the call out here on this bug! We are working on a resolution to this issue right now. This is an issue with our logout function on the frontend not removing the auth token. There is no risk of scope access outside of your machine. We will push out a fix shortly. EDIT: Fix has been deployed. Thanks again!

It appears like your fix didn't work

It now just redirects to the auth page. Clicked on the back button in my browser and voilà

https://imgur.com/a/EvMaVu9

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by emptysea »

I’m a big fan of Tableplus but always interested in new developments in this space.

Mongo Atlas has a really great database editor / UI built into their web UI but ofc it’s Mongo only.

Curious if you have plans to support connecting to a database over SSH? I have a database running on a VM and I can connect to via an SSH tunnel. Avoids having to expose the database to the internet.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by bachmeier »

rytill wrote: post #12
reaperducer wrote: post #4

Looks promising, and approaching the quality of Panic's Mac products. But then I saw it's subscriptionware. Nope. I don't use subscriptionware for my personal computing. And the billion-dollar healthcare company I work for doesn't do software subscription unless you're Microsoft, or similarly indispensable. Startups need not apply. At least the pricing is clear and mostly visible, except for the enterprise tier. Much…

Can you describe how this software could sustainably be developed to serve you, and where you would fit in to that ecosystem? How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money? Are you implying that if their software was open source, with a self-hostable version, you would use that, and contribute back to th…

> How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money?

Just FYI, many companies sell software at less than $600/user/year.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by brayden_wilmoth »

emptysea wrote: post #33

I’m a big fan of Tableplus but always interested in new developments in this space. Mongo Atlas has a really great database editor / UI built into their web UI but ofc it’s Mongo only. Curious if you have plans to support connecting to a database over SSH? I have a database running on a VM and I can connect to via an SSH tunnel. Avoids having to expose the database to the internet.

Yes, great question! We do have support for connecting to databases over SSH on our very near term release roadmap. Avoiding exposing databases to the internet is a common theme we hear and is important for us to tackle quickly.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by marban »

emptysea wrote: post #33

I’m a big fan of Tableplus but always interested in new developments in this space. Mongo Atlas has a really great database editor / UI built into their web UI but ofc it’s Mongo only. Curious if you have plans to support connecting to a database over SSH? I have a database running on a VM and I can connect to via an SSH tunnel. Avoids having to expose the database to the internet.

Last time MongoDB Compass crashed on my Mac, a Firefox log came up — Seems like they've repacked FF into a standalone app.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by burcs »

woollyhat wrote: post #30

Do you intend to offer an on-premise version of your product? From a data security perspective, I would be very wary about granting access to our company databases to an online service such as this, but much more comfortable hosting it internally.

Right now this is a feature we are offering enterprise sized contracts. We have talked a lot about offering a self-hosted version for others as well though.

Completely understand the concerns around data security, that's not something we take lightly at all. We have other ways of accessing VPCs without having to poke holes in your network as well, including private links, VPN connections, and VPC-to-VPC peering.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by brayden_wilmoth »

typosaur wrote: post #32
brayden_wilmoth wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the call out here on this bug! We are working on a resolution to this issue right now. This is an issue with our logout function on the frontend not removing the auth token. There is no risk of scope access outside of your machine. We will push out a fix shortly. EDIT: Fix has been deployed. Thanks again!

It appears like your fix didn't work It now just redirects to the auth page. Clicked on the back button in my browser and voilà https://imgur.com/a/EvMaVu9

Hmm I wonder if this is a caching issue. It seems to be working on our part and no data is ever loaded. If you'd be willing to talk through a bit further I'd love to. brayden [at] outerbase [dot] com.

Re: Launch HN: Outerbase (YC W23) – A new UI and editor for your database

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Post by AlphaGeekZulu »

Whiteshadow12 wrote: post #23
AlphaGeekZulu wrote: post #14

- Fantastic concept, looks absolutely promising! - I never do monthly subscriptions! - I never do Mac-only! - SQLite missing for now (and I wonder how it would be accessed by Outerbase?)

Do you generally use Annual Plans or freemium instead? Not the author or affiliated with them.

Annual Plans, if I purchase for a customer and only for time limited projects.

For myself I purchase only non-expiring licenses with a one-time fee. It is absolutely fine if I have to pay again for upgrades from time to time, but I want to be able to decide to not upgrade and still use my work for another 20 years, when the vendor is already forgotten. And provided, I still have compatible hardware ;-)

A good example would be Softmaker, which I am happily paying for (but they also nag me every other day, if I wouldn't rather like to switch to subscription).

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